Weardale class 25 AWS

[rikwesson]

Hi, not so much a moan as an observation, and hopefully a solution. I was using the VP reskinned to blue class 25 from the weardale route and noticed when approaching a yellow or red signal the sunflower showed but I had no warning bell, but when approaching a green I get one bell. I thought it might be the reskin but when I used the green 25 that comes with the weardale route the same thing happens. So, first question is does this happen to everyone or is it just me, and secondly, does anyone know if there is a way to get the bell to work when the AWS goes off. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

All the best, Richard

[holzroller]

You should actually get a warning horn approaching a signal with an aws ramp when it is showing caution/stop. Not sure how you would go about fixing it, unless the sound is actually there and it is an error in one of the files causing it not to play. Haven't driven this loco in years so can't remember if I had the same issue.

[749006]

I just tried the default WVR Class 25 and it makes no sound at an AWS Magnet, the HUD indicator does activate, for Red/Yellow and just a single bell at a Green

In the folder \Assets\RSderek\WearValleyRailway\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class25\Cab
there is a DTGClass25AWSDing.dav which is what the Green uses
plus two more that are not used DTGClass25AWSBell.dav and DTGClass25AWSHorn.dav
I extracted all three files using DavDecoder and they do make the correct sounds

I tried the Class 25 from the DTG BRBluePack01 and the AWS Horn sounds as it should but again the AWS bell just makes a single ring.

Something need changing in, I presume, the Class25Cab.proxybin file?

Peter

[749006]

Attempted to modify the Class25Cab.proxyxml file by comparing it to others

The reason for no AWS Horn sound is the entry does not point to the sound reference.
So I fixed that and attempted to do the same for the AWS Bell

At a PSR Magnet the horn sounded and at the Green Signal the AWS Bell sounded and then it sounded again, and again, and again with around a second gap between each bell ring.

You can see why I don't change things - much

Peter

[rikwesson]

Hi Peter, thanks for your efforts in trying to get the AWS sound to work. I am wondering if I understand what you have said correctly, and I probably haven't, but if you now have the warning horn working for yellow and red signals, is it necessary to change the bell for green? I did do a scenario on the Weardale route earlier and all signals I saw were semphore, so I would presume this would not have been an issue.

Richard

[749006]

Hi Peter, thanks for your efforts in trying to get the AWS sound to work. I am wondering if I understand what you have said correctly, and I probably haven't, but if you now have the warning horn working for yellow and red signals, is it necessary to change the bell for green? I did do a scenario on the Weardale route earlier and all signals I saw were semphore, so I would presume this would not have been an issue.

Richard

Hi Richard,

I was using the loco on a route with colour lights so I could test the AWS

For the AWS Horn fix go to this folder \Assets\RSderek\WearValleyRailway\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class25\Cab
Find and make a back up of Class25Cab.proxyxml - I just copied it to the desktop so I could revert to normal if required

Open the Class25Cab.proxyxml with Notepad (I found right clicking on the file and Open with...)
Find this line by searching for 566272

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				<kLoud-cTriggeredOneshot d:id="566272">
					<PlayState d:type="cDeltaString">INSIDE</PlayState>
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Engine Start Button Down</Name>
					<Sound d:type="ref">0</Sound>
					<ModifierChain d:type="ref">0</ModifierChain>
					<ControllerName d:type="cDeltaString">EngineStart</ControllerName>
					<TriggerType d:type="cDeltaString">ValueIncreasePast</TriggerType>
					<TriggerValue d:type="sFloat32">0.1</TriggerValue>
					<ValueIsChangingGateTime d:type="sFloat32">0</ValueIsChangingGateTime>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
				</kLoud-cTriggeredOneshot>

On the line <Sound d:type="ref">0</Sound> change the 0 to 566035

Save the file - it tries to save as a text file but by changing the section underneath to All files it saves as the proxyxml
Finally - Right Click on the saved files and "Open with SERZ"
That converts the Class25Cab.proxybin file too

Sorry if you have done this before but by writing it down I can see if my instructions are correct

Peter

[rikwesson]

Hello Peter, I tried doing as you suggested, however where you say On the line <Sound d:type="ref">0</Sound> change the 0 to 566035, the figure I have isn't 0 it is 565839. I changed that to 566035 as you suggested but now I have a constant horn with no way of switching it off. I am also not sure about your last instruction concerning open with serz. Which files are you meaning. On the plus side I haven't broken the sim yet! Also in looking at those files, the file you ask to change says 'engine start button' whereas 566227 says 'AWS horn', could you please confirm I am changing the correct file.

All the best, Richard

[gptech]

You'd be better opening the .proxyxml and .proxybin files with RW Tools---Notepad is well known for garbling files, and as RW Tools uses serz itself you've no need to do any converting.

Peter's instructions also relate to:

<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Engine Start Button Down</Name>

That ain't an AWS bell/horn!

[rikwesson]

Great news, I changed the 566227 line <Sound d:type="ref">0</Sound> change the 0 to 566035 and now both the original and the VP blue version has an AWS horn on yellow and red and a single bell on green. Many thanks for your help Peter.

All the best, Richard

[gptech]

What sound do you get when you press the engine start button?

[749006]

You'd be better opening the .proxyxml and .proxybin files with RW Tools---Notepad is well known for garbling files, and as RW Tools uses serz itself you've no need to do any converting.

Peter's instructions also relate to:

<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Engine Start Button Down</Name>

That ain't an AWS bell/horn!

I could only open the .proxybin with RW Tools - and is this 566035 not the AWS entry?

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				<kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="566035">
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">AWS Horn</Name>
					<IsLooped d:type="bool">1</IsLooped>
					<Priority d:type="sUInt32">50</Priority>
					<BaseVolume d:type="sFloat32">0.5</BaseVolume>
					<VolumeVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</VolumeVariation>
					<BasePitchShift d:type="sFloat32">1</BasePitchShift>
					<PitchShiftVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</PitchShiftVariation>
					<AttenuationStartDist d:type="sFloat32">2</AttenuationStartDist>
					<NoFutherAttenuationDist d:type="sFloat32">5</NoFutherAttenuationDist>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
					<Sample>
						<kLoud-cSampleID>
							<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RSderek\WearValleyRailway\Audio\RailVehicles\Diesel\Class25\Cab\DTGClass25AWSHorn.dav</Filename>
						</kLoud-cSampleID>
					</Sample>
				</kLoud-cSingleSampleSound>

Peter

[749006]

Great news, I changed the 566227 line <Sound d:type="ref">0</Sound> change the 0 to 566035 and now both the original and the VP blue version has an AWS horn on yellow and red and a single bell on green. Many thanks for your help Peter.

All the best, Richard

Glad it worked Richard

Sorry for my mis-typing of the number - If I had read it I would have seen it was wrong - DOH!

The VP Version uses the same audio file so it does both WVR and VP locos

Peter

Still no idea on the AWS Bell - maybe Gary might know the answer?

[rikwesson]

Sorry Gary, can't answer your question about the start button. Now it just starts the engine as it should. I will now push my luck a little bit, but on the original locos when you pressed H only the headcode lights came on with the first press of the button but with the VP reskins when I press H the headcode lights up and the bottom "red" lights come on as well but show as white lights. Is this how they should be? I would ask VP but not sure I'd get an answer at the moment.

Richard

[749006]

Sorry Gary, can't answer your question about the start button. Now it just starts the engine as it should. I will now push my luck a little bit, but on the original locos when you pressed H only the headcode lights came on with the first press of the button but with the VP reskins when I press H the headcode lights up and the bottom "red" lights come on as well but show as white lights. Is this how they should be? I would ask VP but not sure I'd get an answer at the moment.

Richard

Not in real life

Those are just Tail Lights and could only show a Red or nothing and I don't know why VP made the locos like that

Peter

[gptech]

I could only open the .proxybin with RW Tools

Click on "Files", then "Open xml/proxyxml file"

and is this 566035 not the AWS entry?

Yeah, that defines the sound file, but your instructions show it applied to the engine start button.