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Hello all, Paul Williams has recently completed the excellent South Wales Coastal - BR_Sectors route which is a reworking of DTG's South Wales Coastal route. It can be found here - https://www.wotawallysbits.co.uk/paulwilliams-routes & also available here - from UKTS - file id: 39159.

Is there anyway of transferring scenarios created from the original DTG's South Wales Coastal route to Paul's new BR Sectors route?? I've tried the copy & paste route through the 'Content', 'Routes' and 'Scenarios' sub-folder routes but to no joy. It may not be possible but I thought I'd ask.

Thanks in advance, cheer Leigh

ltm1000 wrote:Hello all, Paul Williams has recently completed the excellent South Wales Coastal - BR_Sectors route which is a reworking of DTG's South Wales Coastal route. It can be found here - https://www.wotawallysbits.co.uk/paulwilliams-routes & also available here - from UKTS - file id: 39159.

Is there anyway of transferring scenarios created from the original DTG's South Wales Coastal route to Paul's new BR Sectors route?? I've tried the copy & paste route through the 'Content', 'Routes' and 'Scenarios' sub-folder routes but to no joy. It may not be possible but I thought I'd ask.

Thanks in advance, cheer Leigh

You will need to renumber the copied scenarios, or there will be a conflict. The best way to do this is to CLONE the original SWC (either through the TS menu, but better using RWTools), and transfer the newly renumbered scenarios from that (and then delete the clone). Whether any scenario works depends upon the markers in the new route - if they are the same, then they should.

Nick

PS I did that successfully with NWC when we made the BRBlue version

Thanks brysonman46, will give that a try

A possibly quicker method is just to rename the copied scenario's GUID folder, a single character is all that's needs, and amend the ScenarioProperties.xml file to suit---.xml files are editable in any text editor but RW Tools would be my tool of choice.

So, to pick a scenario at random, let's say you copied 03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c137 from the original route to the new one. Just change that GUID to 03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c138 and amended the .xml:
becoming
It's right at the top of the .xml document so doesn't involve any searching or scrolling to find the relevant section.

gptech wrote:A possibly quicker method is just to rename the copied scenario's GUID folder, a single character is all that's needs, and amend the ScenarioProperties.xml file to suit---.xml files are editable in any text editor but RW Tools would be my tool of choice.

So, to pick a scenario at random, let's say you copied 03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c137 from the original route to the new one. Just change that GUID to 03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c138 and amended the .xml:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<cScenarioProperties xmlns:d="http://www.kuju.com/TnT/2003/Delta" d:version="1.0" d:id="184872866">
	<ID>
		<cGUID>
			<UUID>
				<e d:type="sUInt64">5756956833429495051</e>
				<e d:type="sUInt64">4017496690409106571</e>
			</UUID>
			<DevString d:type="cDeltaString">03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c137</DevString>

becoming

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<cScenarioProperties xmlns:d="http://www.kuju.com/TnT/2003/Delta" d:version="1.0" d:id="184872866">
	<ID>
		<cGUID>
			<UUID>
				<e d:type="sUInt64">5756956833429495051</e>
				<e d:type="sUInt64">4017496690409106571</e>
			</UUID>
			<DevString d:type="cDeltaString">03d29d0b-d1bd-4fe4-8b6c-244ef403c138</DevString>

It's right at the top of the .xml document so doesn't involve any searching or scrolling to find the relevant section.

Gary, that is what I do with a single scenario, but with a largish number, cloning/copying is far quicker.

Nick

Yettanuther way.

Copy the scenarios across. Then open each one in RW_Tools and Save. RW_Tools will automatically make the necessary changes.

John

Thanks to all for your replies and I've successfully moved a scenario across and its worked!

I've published some 49 no. BR blue era scenarios on Steam workshop so just the small matter of copying these all across, and then tinkering with some for them to use new aspects of the route e.g. iron ore facility at Llanwern or the freightliner depot at Pengam

Happy days...….

Glad I saw this thread, as I wasn’t aware of this backdated version

Will save me the effort of relaying Llantrisant Yard for the Cwm Llantwit branch

Yes, I wasn't aware of this backdated version of South Wales either, don't know who this gentleman Paul Williams is, but, he deserves our sincere thanks.

Incidentally, these freeware routes are they being built in 32 Bit or 64 Bit, it rarely says anywhere to anyone downloading them from these websites and it would be nice to know this information.

Cheerz. Steve.

TransportSteve wrote:these freeware routes are they being built in 32 Bit or 64 Bit, it rarely says anywhere to anyone downloading them from these websites and it would be nice to know this information.

Why? it makes no difference to using them.

Hmmm, well, If they are built/amended/backdated in 64 Bit then they must be played in 64 Bit, do they not???

Cheerz. Steve.

TransportSteve wrote:Hmmm, well, If they are built/amended/backdated in 64 Bit then they must be played in 64 Bit, do they not???

Cheerz. Steve.

Nope.

The 64bit version of the game works no differently to the 32bit version, it can just access more memory and VAS. Using 64bit does allow route/scenario creators to add more assets/services, so being able to access that *extra* RAM helps there, but there are plenty of 32bit created routes/scenarios that bring systems to their knees--many of Rosgars scenarios feature that much stock that it's impossible to play them with the highest scenery detail set, but as their system is set with a lightly lower scenery detail level they can create and run these *busier* scenarios with ease, which is easy to resolve just by reducing your own settings a smidgen...or was, it might not be necessary using 64bit. The settings applied to the machine used in creation matter much more than whether that machine is running 32 or 64 bit versions of TS.

Does the route author frequent UKTS...?

This area and era are of major interest to me, and I’ve made a few local valleys routes in the past. Would be great to see some of the dirty and scruffy off the beaten track freight routes added.

Would be potentially interested in collaborating on this

I think Paul does frequently visit the forums but an easy way might be to send him a PM from this thread as it will carry the thread title

Peter

rkk01 wrote:Does the route author frequent UKTS...?

This area and era are of major interest to me, and I’ve made a few local valleys routes in the past. Would be great to see some of the dirty and scruffy off the beaten track freight routes added.

Would be potentially interested in collaborating on this

As the author of this backdated version of SWC I would be willing to hear any proposal for future collaborations.