Ffestiniog & Welsh Highland Railways 2020

[tadomoney]

Now got things working!

[xguerra]

Now got things working!

Brilliant! How did you do it?

[tadomoney]

Now got things working!

Brilliant! How did you do it?

Was a long shot but got my partner to download and install on their pc then send the files over, unfortunately the update wouldn’t open either but over came by doing similar but to my tablet.

I’m sorry for any bother caused and am very impressed with what I’ve seen so far, currently just populating Lodge with stock.

[ttjph]

I'm getting the same problem.

Windows 10, UAC enabled (I think) but I'm an administrator so can give programs permission. Installer .exe is in a 'downloads' folder structure on D:; Railworks is in C:\Games\Steam (so outside of Program Files). I'm using Bitdefender antivirus, but it doesn't appear to be getting in the way after an initial prompt for 'unknown publisher'.

When I run the .exe it comes up with the 'make changes to your device' prompt. I OK this and nothing else appears to happen.

In the background, thought, the installer is thrashing away on one core's worth of CPU while using just 3.1 MB of memory. No other activity (disk or network) apparent. By the time I thought to check Task Manager, I had three copies of the installer running as I'd launched it twice more after the first one appeared to do nothing; all three seemed to be doing the same thing.

As I write this it's still going (one copy, having ended the other two), with no further progress. It's been like this for a good number of minutes.

I've re-downloaded it just in case of corruption, but the new copy seems to be behaving exactly like the first.

If I test one of the rolling stock installers, say FR_EnglandEngines (from the same location), it proceeds pretty directly to the installer wizard as I would expect.

Any thoughts, anyone?

[ttjph]

It's had over an hour now - I'm ending the process

[ttjph]

Further update: it turns out that England Engines is the only installer that works on my machine. All the others, including the route patch, stall in exactly the same way (right down to the same 3.1 MB memory usage).

[spontin]

Well, I'm not sure what the problem is but checking the Installer configurations, they are all set to the same parameters. So if one works, they all should.
Checking the sizes of the Installs packages, the England Engines is one of the smallest ~ about 52MB. The only one smaller is the Penrhyn Ladies - 42MB - does that one fail as well??

The only other thing that shows up in Internet searches for this problem is a potential Malware issue - worth checking???

[ttjph]

Yes, the Ladies failed too.

Hopefully I don't have any malware; I run Bitdefender and nothing has been flagged.

I did eventually install using the technique suggested above - run the installers on another machine, then copy the folder structures back. My lad was delighted as he's been a little obsessed with the Ffestiniog ever since we visited last year!

Minor point of note : initially I didn't have S&C (I do have Port Road) and until I added it, nothing would pick up passengers at stations...

Thank you for the efforts in creating this. It's really taken us back to that corner of Wales.

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[gptech]

Installer .exe is in a 'downloads' folder structure on D:; Railworks is in C:\Games\Steam (so outside of Program Files).

OK, you're sorted now but I'm intrigued...

are C: and D: separate physical drives?
if so, having applications on a separate drive to the operating system does bring performance/stability benefits, so if space permits you may want to consider that.

[spontin]

Yes, the Ladies failed too.

Hopefully I don't have any malware; I run Bitdefender and nothing has been flagged.

I did eventually install using the technique suggested above - run the installers on another machine, then copy the folder structures back. My lad was delighted as he's been a little obsessed with the Ffestiniog ever since we visited last year!

Minor point of note : initially I didn't have S&C (I do have Port Road) and until I added it, nothing would pick up passengers at stations...

Thank you for the efforts in creating this. It's really taken us back to that corner of Wales.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk

Yes, as I mentioned in my README for the route, the S&C is probably the main DLC to get as it has been previously used extensively across the route.
I tried to reduce the number of used assets to just a couple of DLCs but didn't quite make it down to that, but if I added anything, I tried to use the S&C if possible. - I think I use the S&C Characters as the people.

[ttjph]

Installer .exe is in a 'downloads' folder structure on D:; Railworks is in C:\Games\Steam (so outside of Program Files).

OK, you're sorted now but I'm intrigued...

are C: and D: separate physical drives?
if so, having applications on a separate drive to the operating system does bring performance/stability benefits, so if space permits you may want to consider that.

Yes, they are; but D: is a spinner while C: is an SSD. Would the separate-drives benefit outweigh the slower seek times?

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[gptech]

D: is a spinner while C: is an SSD. Would the separate-drives benefit outweigh the slower seek times?

Possibly; it really is one of those things that requires testing on a per system basis.

[rabidcirquefan]

I have a couple real-world operating questions:
- What is the best way to drive downhill from Blaenau to Porthmadog? I find myself coasting with the throttle nearly always at 0, blower on, and riding the brakes, usually with a couple pounds of air applied. Is this how real-world engineers drive, or is there another method? It seems that driving this way would wear out all the brakes throughout the train awfully fast if each train does 1 or 2 roundtrips per day.

- The Penrhyn ladies seem very sensitive to tight curves and bumps in the track. If I'm driving Linda or Blanche, especially downhill, I get some extreme forces acting on the train that don't seem to happen when I drive the double Fairlies or Taliesin. Bumps/jogs in the track and tight bends really mess with the train and nearly cause frequent derailments as the engine slams to a near-stop and then pushes itself forward. The problem is most apparent around tight bends in the track and in instances where the track itself is bumpy. I'm learning to cope with it, but am puzzled why this problem only appears with Linda or Blanche, and not with any other engines. Is there a real-life reason why the larger engines don't bang around, but the Penrhyn ladies do? Or could it be an oversight in the engine script?

- Lastly, the ladies' water capacity is pretty low. This makes the downhill trip hair-raising at times when 100 gallons of water seems just barely enough to cover the trip from Blaenau to Port with nowhere to top-off in between. Is this intentional?

[xguerra]

I have a couple real-world operating questions:
- What is the best way to drive downhill from Blaenau to Porthmadog? I find myself coasting with the throttle nearly always at 0, blower on, and riding the brakes, usually with a couple pounds of air applied. Is this how real-world engineers drive, or is there another method? It seems that driving this way would wear out all the brakes throughout the train awfully fast if each train does 1 or 2 roundtrips per day.

- The Penrhyn ladies seem very sensitive to tight curves and bumps in the track. If I'm driving Linda or Blanche, especially downhill, I get some extreme forces acting on the train that don't seem to happen when I drive the double Fairlies or Taliesin. Bumps/jogs in the track and tight bends really mess with the train and nearly cause frequent derailments as the engine slams to a near-stop and then pushes itself forward. The problem is most apparent around tight bends in the track and in instances where the track itself is bumpy. I'm learning to cope with it, but am puzzled why this problem only appears with Linda or Blanche, and not with any other engines. Is there a real-life reason why the larger engines don't bang around, but the Penrhyn ladies do? Or could it be an oversight in the engine script?

- Lastly, the ladies' water capacity is pretty low. This makes the downhill trip hair-raising at times when 100 gallons of water seems just barely enough to cover the trip from Blaenau to Port with nowhere to top-off in between. Is this intentional?

- I assume you don't use the blower on full. Do you find the safety valves going off a lot? But anyway, coasting downhill is basically what you do. If you have a stable vacuum pressure drop then that's better for the brakes then continuously applying and releasing.

- If it's happening on the downhill only then that might indicate a problem with the collision box size. This usually happens if collision boxes of subsequent items of rolling stock rub together.

- Yes I think that's wrong and it should be 200 gallons. I'll let Steve know. We're in the process of rearranging/repackaging the stock packs to make them a bit more consistent so hopefully we can get this in.

[DavidLloydGeorge]

I have a couple real-world operating questions:
- What is the best way to drive downhill from Blaenau to Porthmadog? I find myself coasting with the throttle nearly always at 0, blower on, and riding the brakes, usually with a couple pounds of air applied. Is this how real-world engineers drive, or is there another method? It seems that driving this way would wear out all the brakes throughout the train awfully fast if each train does 1 or 2 roundtrips per day.

- The Penrhyn ladies seem very sensitive to tight curves and bumps in the track. If I'm driving Linda or Blanche, especially downhill, I get some extreme forces acting on the train that don't seem to happen when I drive the double Fairlies or Taliesin. Bumps/jogs in the track and tight bends really mess with the train and nearly cause frequent derailments as the engine slams to a near-stop and then pushes itself forward. The problem is most apparent around tight bends in the track and in instances where the track itself is bumpy. I'm learning to cope with it, but am puzzled why this problem only appears with Linda or Blanche, and not with any other engines. Is there a real-life reason why the larger engines don't bang around, but the Penrhyn ladies do? Or could it be an oversight in the engine script?

- Lastly, the ladies' water capacity is pretty low. This makes the downhill trip hair-raising at times when 100 gallons of water seems just barely enough to cover the trip from Blaenau to Port with nowhere to top-off in between. Is this intentional?

Yep, I've noticed that Linda/Blanche Derail frequently and have strange points where the speed drops and it is very hard to try and get it going again. It isn't Just you!

I've also found it near impossible to drive Linda/Blanche for long periods (such as a full up/down trip) without running out of water.

Hope this could be fixed soon, Otherwise they are great!

Thanks