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Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:42 pm
by sem34090
Hello (again),
As part of a route-building project, I was wondering if anyone would possibly be able to reskin John Yelland's GWR (Wooden Post) Distant Signal arms into Red with a white fishtail stripe for me? I ask as the change to Yellow distant arms only really happened in the 1920s, I seem to recall, and the route being worked on is set in 1914.
Kindest Regards,
sem34090
P.S. I only ask if someone can do it for me as I am unable to make use of RWtools on any of my computers currently - the one with TS on it just doesn't like RWtools for some reason and my laptop has too little storage space.
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:55 pm
by michaelhendle
That looks like a fixed distant,we had a similar signaal in South Africa,you had to stop,but if you could see that the next section was clear you could proceed at no more than 15mph
Mike
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:05 am
by Carinthia
No - you do not have to stop at this one.
It is just an old way of painting British signals, which went out of fashion in the 1920s.
John
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:41 am
by locomotiveman1994
John, he was refeering to the South-African practice, not the British one.
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 8:56 am
by Carinthia
locomotiveman1994 wrote:John, he was refeering to the South-African practice, not the British one.
Yes, he said it looked like one but it definitely isn't one.
To
sem34090, why not contact John Yelland himself? In the past he has very kindly made the odd special signal for me.
John
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 10:11 am
by alanch
Carinthia wrote:locomotiveman1994 wrote:John, he was refeering to the South-African practice, not the British one.
Yes, he said it looked like one but it definitely isn't one.
To
sem34090, why not contact John Yelland himself? In the past he has very kindly made the odd special signal for me.
John
To clear up any ambiguity, the photo that started this thread is of a fixed distant, as Michael says, and they were commonly used in the UK.
Pre the 1920s, all distant signals were painted red, just like stop signals - this included distant signals that moved and fixed distant signals. Then, probably to avoid any confusion, it was decided to change the colour of distant signals to yellow.
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:03 am
by locomotiveman1994
For all those interested in the details of british railway signaling, I can only recommend this site:
http://www.railsigns.uk
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:05 pm
by gptech
So...is it a fixed distant (one that doesn't move) or a more usual movable distant but just painted red that needs producing?
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:46 pm
by locomotiveman1994
Both I think...
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:57 pm
by sem34090
Sorry, I didn't clarify - I could do with both fixed and working distants, painted as per the fixed distant above.
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 6:43 pm
by Carinthia
sem34090 wrote:Sorry, I didn't clarify - I could do with both fixed and working distants, painted as per the fixed distant above.
Did you see amongst all that what I suggested above about contacting John Yelland?
John
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:42 pm
by sem34090
Terribly sorry - I didn't notice! I shall do that.

Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 12:27 am
by gptech
Before I do any more.... how tall does the post need to be and what does the back face of the arm look like?

Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:08 am
by locomotiveman1994
gptech wrote:Before I do any more.... how tall does the post need to be and what does the back face of the arm look like?


This should answer the question of the backside. Note that the 'Caution' light was red, too.
Re: Red GWR Distant Signal
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 9:58 am
by gptech
Ta Gaƫtan, the rear of the arm needs no further work then...I like it when it gets easy!