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Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:22 pm
by FrankJ
For All our sakes lets give it a rest.

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:29 pm
by Merlin75
I wonder how Alan and Pete would feel if some kind person was to upload this to another site for everyone to download for free. Can't see how they could complain too much as that person would only be doing the same as what they have done.

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:21 pm
by gptech
FrankJ wrote:For All our sakes lets give it a rest.
Sour Grapes Frank?

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:30 pm
by gptech
Back to the route itself....

anybody else got it and willing to post a review?

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:16 pm
by FrankJ
gptech wrote:
FrankJ wrote:For All our sakes lets give it a rest.
Sour Grapes Frank?
Mouldy Grapes more like :D

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:45 pm
by rosschris10
I find it funny all the people defending any negative comments about this ATS site are brand new accounts. What a coincidence

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:50 pm
by rosschris10
gptech wrote:Back to the route itself....

anybody else got it and willing to post a review?
Nope as I am not paying some guy a subscription to his website to access free content

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:03 pm
by rosschris10
Merlin75 wrote:I wonder how Alan and Pete would feel if some kind person was to upload this to another site for everyone to download for free. Can't see how they could complain too much as that person would only be doing the same as what they have done.
Well he wouldn’t be able to say anything as it is freeware and not his work so I can see it happening soon tbh.

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:18 pm
by 749006
rosschris10 wrote:I find it funny all the people defending any negative comments about this ATS site are brand new accounts. What a coincidence
Not quite sure who you are referring to

Some people have not posted a lot before this but their join date is 3+ years ago

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 10:32 pm
by rosschris10
749006 wrote:
rosschris10 wrote:I find it funny all the people defending any negative comments about this ATS site are brand new accounts. What a coincidence
Not quite sure who you are referring to

Some people have not posted a lot before this but their join date is 3+ years ago
Hi 749006,

Not you or any of the regulars here the one where it is typing paragraph after paragraph about why we should sign up to that website and rubbishing any other claims of non praise towards the website.

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 11:34 pm
by IronBidder
Rosschris10, there's no one posting on this thread who's joined after 2016.

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:09 pm
by cunningn
As a point of fact merging routes with dissimilar origins has been possible for several years. I released my first merge in 2014 and offered the 'tool' to anyone who had the technical nouse to use it (not end-user friendly). I hadn't heard of the American guy but it doesn't surprise me nor does this latest merge stuff.

Points to bear in mind -
  • large routes are only runnable because of the 64-bit release (credit to DTG) - my merge from Cambs-KingsCross-Grantham was severely limited in terms of AI etc until x64 and I hate to think how minimal the current run up to York would have been under x32
    editing such a large route (tracks.bin is currently just under 23mb) is time-consuming - a track save takes 7 minutes and scenario saves are 2.5 minutes
    setting up a clean-working AI-filled scenario of any length is a ball-breaking task - you can't 'just make a quick change' and tracing conflicts is an order of magnitude nastier than doing it on smaller routes
    many end-users don't have the time or desire to do a 'realistic' multi-hour scenario - I'll do a KX to York mail run - but how many users want to spend 2 hours in the dark watching mailbags?
    merging two routes set in the same time period is one thing - but merging and back- or forward-dating them at the same time takes a lot of work!
Merging up to Edinburgh would result in a tracks.bin file of 30+mb BEFORE I added in all the extra steam-era trackwork - can't imagine how long each edit would take to save then!
So anyone who fancies doing route merges is welcome to use my tool (some technical knowledge required ;-) ) but it is not 'easy' and I'd recommend thinking long and hard about whether the 'end-user' is going to really use the end-result.

Neil

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:21 pm
by brysonman46
cunningn wrote:As a point of fact merging routes with dissimilar origins has been possible for several years. I released my first merge in 2014 and offered the 'tool' to anyone who had the technical nouse to use it (not end-user friendly). I hadn't heard of the American guy but it doesn't surprise me nor does this latest merge stuff.

So anyone who fancies doing route merges is welcome to use my tool (some technical knowledge required ;-) ) but it is not 'easy' and I'd recommend thinking long and hard about whether the 'end-user' is going to really use the end-result.

Neil
PM on its way

Nick

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:54 pm
by cunningn
Nick / Xavier - PMs sent re merge tool - have fun ;-)

Re: ECML merge - out now

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:17 pm
by brysonman46
cunningn wrote:Nick / Xavier - PMs sent re merge tool - have fun ;-)
Thanks, Neil