Drivable DBSO?

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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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chrisonline wrote:If you are aware of one, let me know!
Me and my big mouth....now I've got to go and look for one.... :wink:
749006 wrote:Ok, Don't take my word for it - I know I had placed it before any other stock
And in the post above yours you will see Terrone is having the same problem
Yes Peter, I'd seen Terrone's post but I'd also seen Chris's post
chrisonline wrote:Not sure what you are or are not doing Peter, but they're all good for me,
You may know you had the relevant P/P boxes ticked before trying to add a driver but you hadn't stated exactly when that 'ticking of the box' was done.
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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gptech wrote:
chrisonline wrote:If you are aware of one, let me know!
Me and my big mouth....now I've got to go and look for one.... :wink:
Well, I have tried! The problem is finding something that exists as a separate child object that could be transferred into the DBSO model.

I'm not even sure the term "plough" is appropriate for the DBSO, as it is more of a solid cowcatcher (I've also seen them called dogcatchers!) structure below the buffer beam
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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gptech wrote: You may know you had the relevant P/P boxes ticked before trying to add a driver but you hadn't stated exactly when that 'ticking of the box' was done.
The ticking of the boxes started with AP DBSO and then DTG Class 73 Pack 01

First I placed the GLV
Then the each of the DBSO Liveries - I have a livery marked as ONE but that vehicle did not appear
Must be a repaint from somewhere

Only the GLV and BR Blue Grey DBSO would accept a Driver Icon

I did not tick the RSC Class 421 box and that might be why the the Driver Icons would not work?
But they did for the Blue/Grey version
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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I've exactly the same experience as 749006

Download the file, copy the asset/content folders, head to the dtg 73 folder, and extract the AP file.

Into the game, place an NR 31, tick the DTG 73 boxes, tick the AP Mk2 DBSO box.

I know I can't place the ONE, as I don't have the BH reskin.

NR one appears, can't add a driver icon

BR one appears, can add a driver icon, but can't see a cab view.

At a GLV, and straight into the cab view.

Happy to try a few different things if there are any suggestions, not the end of the world for me, but it does seem puzzling
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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749006 wrote:I did not tick the RSC Class 421 box
No need to if the DBSOs you're using don't use the 421 cab.
Squatch wrote:head to the dtg 73 folder, and extract the AP file.
Why?...no need to do that, the game doesn't demand that the files contained in a .ap archive be extracted in order to use the contents.
Squatch wrote:BR one appears, can add a driver icon, but can't see a cab view.
Do you two still have the .bin files calling for the 421 cab installed?...You may be testing with the *wrong* version!
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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I'm at a bit of a loss now (not hard, I know!). I extracted the Class73Pack01 AP file because that's what the installation instructions said to do.......and what's this about a *wrong* version?? Wrong version of what Gary? I just want to drive the DBSO! :P :P :P

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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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TElsmore wrote:I extracted the Class73Pack01 AP file because that's what the installation instructions said to do
The instructions are flawed then :o There are instances of the scripting needing to be extracted if a reskin uses it's own script to (for example) hide parts of the model and then call for the main script. That's not the case with the cab view for the DBSO as all the work is done in the .bin file. Granted, some may find that on their system, with their configuration, such an extraction is necessary but certainly not the whole package.
TElsmore wrote:what's this about a *wrong* version??
If you have the DBSO featuring the 421 cab still installed this pack will happily sit alongside it so you'd have 2 versions available. Dead easy to pick the wrong one in the available stock list when placing it on the track.
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gptech wrote:
TElsmore wrote:I extracted the Class73Pack01 AP file because that's what the installation instructions said to do
The instructions are flawed then :o There are instances of the scripting needing to be extracted if a reskin uses it's own script to (for example) hide parts of the model and then call for the main script. That's not the case with the cab view for the DBSO as all the work is done in the .bin file. Granted, some may find that on their system, with their configuration, such an extraction is necessary but certainly not the whole package.
TElsmore wrote:what's this about a *wrong* version??
If you have the DBSO featuring the 421 cab still installed this pack will happily sit alongside it so you'd have 2 versions available. Dead easy to pick the wrong one in the available stock list when placing it on the track.
Ah, I see. No, I recently reinstalled the DBSO, so It is fresh. Still won't work though! [emoji23]

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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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I decided to remove my AP DBSO Folder and start again

A fresh install of the AP DBSO Pack was downloaded and installed.
I then installed the BH Reskin of the DRS DBSO - the only instructions are to copy the Geo file from the Default Folder to the DRS Folder which I did.
I then installed the reskin linked to in the second post of this thread.

Having cleared the Cache I restarted the game but things are no different

Only the BR Blue DBSO will accept a Driver Icon
And when I tried to use the Cab - Nothing

So I backed a 37 up and it got stranger - from the 37's cab it looked like this
DBSO 1.jpg
Try to switch to the DBSO and this happened
DBSO 2.jpg
And when I turned around it's even stranger
DBSO 3.jpg
Something is not quite right - strange as the 4TC from the same chap works perfectly

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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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gptech wrote:
749006 wrote:I did not tick the RSC Class 421 box
No need to if the DBSOs you're using don't use the 421 cab.
Squatch wrote:head to the dtg 73 folder, and extract the AP file.
Why?...no need to do that, the game doesn't demand that the files contained in a .ap archive be extracted in order to use the contents.
Squatch wrote:BR one appears, can add a driver icon, but can't see a cab view.
Do you two still have the .bin files calling for the 421 cab installed?...You may be testing with the *wrong* version![/quote


As others had said, that's what the instructions said, and they were explicit:

"Step 3 - Head into "Assets" folder

Step 4 - Head into "DTG" then into "Class73Pack01" and Extact the .AP file

Step 5 - Enjoyyyy!!!! READ THE DESCRIPTION AND BREIFING

********** STEP 3 and 4 ARE VITAL, I CANNOT GARUANTEE IT WILL WORK WITHOUT THE EXTRACTED AP FILE ****************"

Whether that's true or not, I don't know, but it said it, so I did it.

Not sure that I ever had the 421 cab version - which bin file would I be looking for, and I'll happily check.
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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Ok, I've sorted it. And embarrassingly, it worked all along.

If you scroll down the assets list and pick the "DRIVEABLE DBSO", and not one of the dummy ones from the top of the list........

:oops:

Hey ho, hope that simple fix helps the others........

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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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Squatch wrote:If you scroll down the assets list and pick the "DRIVEABLE DBSO", and not one of the dummy ones from the top of the list........
There you go . . it had to be something sitting under our noses, as what was being said didn't seem to make sense, or mirror my experience.
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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...as I suggested...testing the *wrong* one....OK, I was wrong about just which wrong one was being used... :wink: I've no idea why the instructions say only to use the drivable one when actually driving from it, as it makes no difference to the game if you drive from a loco with a drivable DBSO at t'other end--anybody able to shed any light on that?
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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Yep, in my case, it was just picking the one that I saw - I initially wondered whether there was another pack I needed to select, like the Mk2 pack that the DBSO came with, which got me thinking in a different way, and then I looked past the end of my nose and found the other. Hopefully the "fix" is as simple for the other guys!
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Re: Drivable DBSO?

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Ok, Found the Drivable DBSOs but in my case they can only be operated by the Mouse or F4 HUD Controls and not the Normal A&D power controls

Anyone else finding the same?

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