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jpilborough wrote: Yes, that's exactly what it's there for. It's a Train Protection system, there to monitor the driver and intervene if they do not react appropriately.
Many Brits may find the PZB system strange, but to me it is amazing that whilst Germany has had PZB in various evolutions since 1934, and most of the rest of Central Europe has similar systems, the UK had no nationwide Train Protection at all until TPWS was rolled out in 2003.
And yet the German and Austrian Signalling still does not stop drivers passing signals at danger - and by some distance.
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jpilborough wrote: I do often wonder what would happen if PZB was introduced in the UK and British drivers had to learn to use it just the same as their German counterparts. RMT would probably denounce it as unsafe on the grounds that it increases driver workload, demand a £10000 "training allowance" and then go on strike :D
And I wonder if we had UK style signalling in Germany where the EBuLa was removed, the Signals only indicated to the driver the route the train was going and had no speeds shown.
Plus the drivers would have to know the route they were driving instead of relying on the EBuLa or a paper Buchfahrplane

The system would collapse within a few days :D

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Re: DB BR407 Velero

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I have a Swedish keyboard and have no native [-key on my keyboard.

So for me it is impossible to enable the PZB help system using the Ctrl+[ keyboard command. Do anyone know how to manually change that keyoboard shortcut?

PZB help system:
The help system will assist you when you have no experience with the PZB.
It tells you in a message box why you have an emergency brake application when it occurs.
An additional yellow needle on the speedometer gives you information about the target
speed. You can switch the help system on or off with <Ctrl+[>.
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MaikG wrote:Press the three PZB knobs down and hold them for at least 5 seconds and LZB will come up in a sort of debug mode without having PZB on. But it switches not on automatically when entering a LZB section. There are reasons why PZB need ot be activated when using LZB and i will not remove this behavior. If you dont want it, just dont turn on PZB/LZB and you can run as fast as can with that train. AFB works anyways.
I just got gifted this train but I must be doing something wrong.
I held down the three LZB buttons and after 5 seconds I got the LZB Cheat Mode message.
But when I run over a LZB fitted route there is no information on the Display about Maximum Speed or Change of Speed

Anyone else had this problem?
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Because the cheat mode torns it off.
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Trev123 wrote:Because the cheat mode torns it off.
But if you read the message from MaikG he says
MaikG wrote:Press the three PZB knobs down and hold them for at least 5 seconds and LZB will come up in a sort of debug mode without having PZB on.
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Yes well, it seems like it turns LZB off too.
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