Atomic Systems

Splitting a post isn't the issue Peter; my quoting of you was accurate, and focused on the relevant parts.
Your subsequent quote of my quote showed that I said I had both versions installed--I didn't, and wouldn't have because I don't .

I'll agree that sussing out which version is which in game can be confusing for some, but as the packs are in different Provider folders there's no need to have both sets enabled for the purposes of testing a single one. Back to KISS again.....

Right, I have junked all my other reskins of the ATW DVT's and reinstalled the one off DPS, now as you say the number is working fine, however, the key commands aren't working in the DVT for the lights, DVD, and AWS and reverser? Am I supposed to tick anything else in the asset select box? Apart from the class 90 and MK3 DVT boxes in the AP waggonz box, does it have any other dependencies?

No Martin, nothing else news ticking.
When you enter the cab are the dashboard lights lit?

Yes? Would it be worth uninstalling the class 90 pack via steam and reinstalling?

smarty2 wrote:Would it be worth uninstalling the class 90 pack via steam and reinstalling?

No, that's the last resort.
Before you get to that, find out if the default DVT works OK--just because a reskin doesn't work it doesn't mean it's the base model that's at fault--it could be the reskin or even how you've installed it.

Right, tried the default DVT and everything works fine.

smarty2 wrote:Right, tried the default DVT and everything works fine.

Grand, no need to waste your time re-acquiring that asset pack.

That means the issue is confined to the ATW reskin; nobody else is having these issues so that suggests it's the installation part of the process that's gone awry rather than a fundamental fault with the reskin itself.

Delete it.

That may sound contrary to my usual advice of not deleting stuff, but I think you're at that point---for all the rest of us know the installation has been messed about to the nth degree so none of us can take it as being *as it should*.
Have a beer, watch telly, take the dog for a walk---if you ain't got a dog borrow one, put the wife on a lead...anything to get away from the game for 20 minutes or so to settle and clear the mind (often the best thing to do when you hit problems is nothing--walk away and think through whats supposed to happen and what actually is happening. Going round in an ever tightening spiral chasing a solution is not the way to do it)
Then reinstall the reskin.
Test it in a brand new free roam scenario on ay route---all it needs is a coach and a loco coupling to it, best to start with a 90 as that's what it was built to work with. You'd probably get away with not having a coach, but once again that's how it's supposed to work.
If it doesn't work then do nothing except post back in here.

Right then, things are getting interesting now, I set up a small consist on the geml route using the modded 67 for use with the dvt, it worked as expected, now I added an atw rfb and two tso's, still worked as expected so I made it a new consist by saving it. Now I then swapped the old consist on the north wales coastal route with this new one, lo and behold the key commands no longer work? Flummoxed me has that! And yep, I did clear the cache.....

Edit: Something more interesting too, the normal keys for disabling the DVD is Ctrl+E when you press that it goes into the world editor? But at least the aws key is working now?

smarty2 wrote: I set up a small consist on the geml route using the modded 67 for use with the dvt, it worked as expected, now I added an atw rfb and two tso's, still worked as expected so I made it a new consist by saving it. Now I then swapped the old consist on the north wales coastal route with this new one, lo and behold the key commands no longer work

What happens if you add the vehicles singly in NWC?

They work as expected! So I don't understand why on geml they work together but on NWC they don't? I'm going to double check the geml test scenario again!

Possibly because you've used a saved consist, and the relationship between the locos and stock and UI hasn't copied over/is no longer recognised.
Make up a full consist on NWC and test that.

If you place another instance of the saved consist in GEML does that work?

Right, tested again with the geml test and the dvt works fine but the 67 doesn't now so you are probably right in you're assumption Gary? I'll go and put a fresh consist down not the saved one.

smarty2 wrote:Yes? Would it be worth uninstalling the class 90 pack via steam and reinstalling?

I might be wrong, Garry will correct me if I am but I thought the class 90 pack came from AP and only the GEML version came via Steam?
And was not the GEML ATW Reskin was the one with a problem?

749006 wrote:

smarty2 wrote:Yes? Would it be worth uninstalling the class 90 pack via steam and reinstalling?

I might be wrong, Garry will correct me if I am but I thought the class 90 pack came from AP and only the GEML version came via Steam?
And was not the GEML ATW Reskin was the one with a problem?

Yes, Peter, you are right, but it still lives in the APWaggonz folder, however, the modded 67 uses the class 90 folder off steam, but the Mungo one doesn't off Darren's site, I'm having a problem using Mungo's reskin with the 67 on NWC?

Gary, I put a fresh consist down and the 67 works but the dvt doesn't? no lights no keys working except the aws? Its almost as if it is an intermittent problem, sometimes partially working or not at all! I think I will have to stick with the dvt that came with the 67 and ignore the numbering issue!