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Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:44 am
by IronBidder
I've just found this:
https://live.dovetailgames.com/live/tra ... of-legends
There isn't much info about what's changed from the existing version, but it looks like the Class 91 will be included.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:30 am
by roballen555
Nice,,KX to Peterbourgh/ECML( DTG ),,,Peterbourgh to York ( CR ),York to Newcastle ( DTG/JT ),,Newcastle to Edinburgh ( JT ) opens up some nice scenario's,,just hope DTG give the CR route a bit of a face lift,but the screen shots look the same as CR's route,look forward to this for once lol.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:48 am
by SkylineBoy
roballen555 wrote:just hope DTG give the CR route a bit of a face lift,but the screen shots look the same as CR's route,look forward to this for once lol.
I very much doubt it, much like China Clay I would imagine they are just publishing on behalf of CR. I really do like the look of this route and go back to it time and again. The only thing that lets it down for me is the Kuju signalling.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 2:06 pm
by Springer6
This is a great route, I have the CR version, it looks like the Steam version will be the same.
It provides the "missing link" of the ECML from Peterborough to York. There are some issues with some of the detail, but all fixable. CR also have another version East Coast ( British Rail ) which has the old track going via Selby. I would recommend both.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:58 pm
by 749006
I might get around to obtaining this route now it's coming thru Steam
Sat on the fence last time and then Steam released something else
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 6:15 pm
by smarty2
It is a nice route but it could with HD'ing, the lack of track furniture bugs me no end!

Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:13 pm
by TransportSteve
Springer6 wrote: CR also have another version East Coast ( British Rail ) which has the old track going via Selby. I would recommend both.
Hmmm, not quite, they've both got Selby included. This modern electric version has the avoiding line past Selby and a line into Selby Station, which isn't electrified, of course, but, it doesn't go any further, so, you have to reverse back out and round towards Milford Jct and then up to York, the diesel version goes directly through Selby Station and out the other side, and up to York.
Cheerz. Steve.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 7:31 pm
by 749006
TransportSteve wrote:Springer6 wrote: CR also have another version East Coast ( British Rail ) which has the old track going via Selby. I would recommend both.
Hmmm, not quite, they've both got Selby included. This modern electric version has the avoiding line past Selby and a line into Selby Station, which isn't electrified, of course, but, it doesn't go any further, so, you have to reverse back out and round towards Milford Jct and then up to York, the diesel version goes directly through Selby Station and out the other side, and up to York.
Cheerz. Steve.
I think Springer is referring to the old track from Chaloners Whin Jn to Selby which is in the non electrified version
Peter
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:07 pm
by TransportSteve
Oh, well, I haven't personally been to Selby since about 1980/81, last few years of the Deltics, I didn't realise they had ripped the track up from there up to Chaloners Whin Jct. absolute vandals........
So, the new electrified route then is from York down to Colton Jct and then to Gascoigne Wood Jct and across to Selby, or, carry on south to Donny, via Temple Hirst Jct, well, I've learnt something today.
Cheerz. Steve.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 8:18 pm
by Springer6
749006 wrote:TransportSteve wrote:Springer6 wrote: CR also have another version East Coast ( British Rail ) which has the old track going via Selby. I would recommend both.
Hmmm, not quite, they've both got Selby included. This modern electric version has the avoiding line past Selby and a line into Selby Station, which isn't electrified, of course, but, it doesn't go any further, so, you have to reverse back out and round towards Milford Jct and then up to York, the diesel version goes directly through Selby Station and out the other side, and up to York.
Cheerz. Steve.
I think Springer is referring to the old track from Chaloners Whin Jn to Selby which is in the non electrified version
Peter
Yes that is correct. They both have Selby in the route, but the East Coast main line ( which is what I was referring to) used to run "
via Selby". The route East Coast (British Rail) depicts this situation, so you can regress it to Steam era if you wish.
The East Coast Modern route of course depicts the track as it is now i.e. crossing the river Wharfe on a new bridge to the North West of Selby. The track to Selby now branches off the East Coast Main Line, just north of Heck and runs through Selby and on to Hull. The CR modern route depicts this and has a "Hull" portal just to the East of Selby.
There is of course another branch to the West from Selby to Hambleton North Junction on the ECML, but the ECML as such no longer runs "via Selby".
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2018 10:28 pm
by rosschris10
Looks a really nice route looking forward to this one
Be nice to have some scenarios that utilise the whole ecml
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:30 pm
by 749006
TransportSteve wrote:So, the new electrified route then is from York down to Colton Jct and then to Gascoigne Wood Jct and across to Selby, or, carry on south to Donny, via Temple Hirst Jct, well, I've learnt something today.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selby_Diversion
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:13 pm
by IronBidder
I've just re-installed Creative's version and had a run on it again.
While it doesn't quite meet the levels of DTG's routes for detail and scenery, I find it visually convincing with a nice representation of the countryside along the route. However, you do have to turn off procedural flora to stop the clumps of rough grass growing everywhere, including ploughed fields and roads! It only uses 2D trees which may not be to everybody's taste, but it does them quite effectively and they have the advantage of not hitting frame rates much.
It is of course a fast point to point route, but does have some very large yards along the way for shunting or delivery of freight. It also has the Selby triangle, which gives the opportunity for some local diverging DMU driving if that's your thing.
It will be good to see it being offered to a wider audience.
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 2:27 pm
by rfletcher72
Re: Creative Rail's ECML Modern Coming to Steam
Posted: Fri Apr 06, 2018 4:02 pm
by 749006
And a discount available if you own any of the traction used on the route.
£17.49 until 20 April
I will await some reviews before spending my lolly
Peter