Bossman Games Stanier Class 5 (Black Five)

[jstange]

Yes, I saw the water trimmer, but what does it actually do how do I work with it? There's water trimmer open / close, so what do I do?

[jstange]

As long as both tender valve and steam valve are open for the injector (I and K for the left injector, O and L for the right), and there's no loud roaring steam noise coming from the injector (combined with a large cloud of steam and or water), the injector will start working, it just takes about 10-15 or so seconds for the injectors to pick up properly and start feeding. Best advice is just not to ever touch the trimming handles as they start in the correct position. If you do, you may wish to turn on trimmer assist which will auto set the trimmer handles (hopefully), I think that is on assist level 2 or 3... Patience is key with the injectors. Alternatively go straight for assist level 4 and 5 and let the loco handle the injectors for you

kindest regards

Edward

Thanks a lot for your explanation, Edward.

I have no problem operating anything, but I need to be explained what it is and how to work with it. How do I turn those assist modes on please? And how do I trim it if I want to do it manually, what is it that I have to do?

[metrobus]

The trimmer handles are located under the driver and fireman's seat, although on the 3 modern versions they are both located on the fireman's side. Basically if you imagine the tender valve as an on off valve which stops flow of water to the injector, the trimmer valve is used to regulate the flow of water through the injector. So the handle goes from No flow to maximum flow and you have to find the sweet spot where there's not too much flow that the injector floods, or too little flow and the condensation of steam isn't complete. I think its true for all versions but with the handle (off the top of my head) pointing perpendicular to the cab side sheets the valve is shut and and with the handles pointing fully towards the tender back the valve is fully open. The correct position is somewhere about 70 degrees from the perpendicular.

Best way to find the sweet spot is too listen for the sound, set the trimmer valve to approximately the correct position, open the tender valve and steam valve and if you here a roaring noise slowly adjust the trimmer handle until it suddenly stops, you may need go back and forth slowly a couple of times to find it exactly. But once the roaring stops you've got it in more or less the correct position and in about 10 seconds the injector should be singing away nicely.

To turn on the assists, press the headlight button on the F4 HUD, a small number should appear next to it and some popups on the top right hand side should appear telling you what has just been turned on.

kindest regards

Edward

[1crick14a]

One more neat one When you lift the fireman's seat you jump into Auto Fireman :O)

[jstange]

Thanks a lot for taking the time to explain it to me, Edward - now that I know it just regulates the amount of water going into the injector it's all starting to make sense.

What is however quite difficult is to find the right position once it's lost. Very challenging indeed, and you have to do it when you lose some boiler pressure too (which is logical). I'll see if I'll be finding the correct position faster when I'm more experienced... now it's taking me a min or two

[mgross]

This all sounds much too complicated for me.

[1crick14a]

Go spoil yourselves for the £14.99 you get one of the best packages you could wish for.
After a little play around you will see how easy it is to use, the models are outstanding
to look at, plus a very simple Manual to read as well.

I for one am now looking forward to the Jubilee from these gents.
I just hope its a fire chucker as I remember them for being so.

Regards, Rick

[johnrossetti]

My main reasons for buying any loco is its looks and sounds.
There are still some diesel & Electric locos I have never used because I cant start them or I can start them but they just wont move. (Reading a manual is not a normal alternative for people like me with dyslexia)

I think ALL loco designers need to remember that some of us would love advance (looking/Sounding locos) but just want to jump in and go.(and hear AWS bells if we cant turn them off, in helicopter mode)

So please add a button for simple HUD mode REGARDLESS of the game setting which in my case is always in advanced but for different reasons.

Not a critisim of any particular model just an observation.
Regards John

[driverden]

For anyone concerned about the complexity of this loco, don't be if you can drive JTs 5MT you will be ok with this. I have driven 44871 plus six carriages along the length of the S&D without problem. Otto (TS2018 auto fireman) fired and I controlled the loco with a Raildriver (Cobraone software). The only issue I had was with the reverser, I had to use F5 and the keyboard to position it. I thought the smoke effects were very good, ranging from black to almost pure white and lots of variations in between. I would say if you like the look of it buy it.
Regards Dennis

[michaelhendle]

Hi
Has the problem getting them to show up in RW Tools been sorted out yet,when you try to swap them in a scenario?
Mike

[kirkheath]

This is much easier to drive than the Super D, but still a lot of fun! Love the way how the chest valve is simulated, and much more emphasis of driving with the cutoff rather than regulator. Autofireman is very handy not had issues yet. I'm off to tackle Washford bank now with a load of 10. Injectors seem rather simple as Edward said, the water trimmers seem to be setup already so just a case of opening the relevant water and steam feed vales.

Still fiddling with game settings to try get it as smooth FPS wise as I can to enjoy the engine to the max.

[jstange]

Hi
Has the problem getting them to show up in RW Tools been sorted out yet,when you try to swap them in a scenario?
Mike

I've just successfully replaced it in one of the WLoS scenarios (Border Hop) and it seems to work OK although I haven't run the scenarion fully yet. You need to unpack the .ap (or at least the bin files) and make the files read-write (read-only unticked), then use RWTools to make the swap and change the loco number to 5400#NN. Then it seems to work just fine, but need to perform more swaps to be sure.

By the way every time I try to move the player loco tasks from one loco to another within the built-in Scenario Editor the game crashes. Perhaps it has something to do with the loco number as well, I don't know...

[Drogba11CFC]

In addition, I tried to substitute the new one for the WLOS one in the "Ayr Line" scenario, and every locomotive and tender turned around. Even when I flipped the direction in RW-Tools, I still couldn't control the train.

[Tom5305]

An earlier post suggested no 5305? Well it is possible to change numbers and here she is!

[kirkheath]

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An earlier post suggested no 5305? Well it is possible to change numbers and here she is!

If I can get a decent enough shot of the nameplate, I might try attempt the BR livery with the polished tyres