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Re: WR Hydraulics

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shinymac wrote:However, I am somewhat dissappointed that DTG are seriously expecting EVERYONE buying their pack, has a knowledge of how to use RW Tools !
I agree with the sentiment, but changing a number does not require the use of RW Tools--it's all done in-game.
shinymac wrote: how do I provide names and numbers for the Class 42 Warships, and the Class 35 Hymeks ?
Easy one first....Hymeks weren't named, so all you have in the properties box when you double click a loco in the scenario editor is something long the lines of:

70205J10

...the number followed by the headcode.

The Warships are numbered in ythe same manner...loco number, then a letter/symbol for the name, and lastly the headcode.
MrHillingdon wrote:I suspect those dodgy looking symbols from D1060 onwards will take a bit of working out!

Copy that list to a text document, then when you need/want to change a Western's number just highlight the number and odd symbol in the .txt document, right click and choose 'copy'.
Then into the game, place the desired loco, double click to bring up the properties, highlight the number and symbol in the properties box with your mouse and press the Ctrl and V keys on your keyboard. This pastes that copied number and symbol over the one the game has automatically selected.

If you like typing and can't do with copying and pasting then the weird symbols (OK, they're accents over vowels) are produced by a couple of methods.

Acute accents are simply just a case of holding down the Alt Gr key whilst typing the vowel......á é í ó ú Á É Í Ó Ú

Other accents are done by holding down the Alt key and typing a numerical code ...... à (Alt + 0224) for example----table showing the numbers is at http://sites.psu.edu/symbolcodes/codehtml/#accent
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Hi Gary

Silly me...I forgot that the Hymeks never carried names ! Doh.

Thanks for info on how to change numbers and names on the Warships too. Will give that a go.

I am interested to know how to change numbers "in game" rather than with RW Tools. Does this involve delving into the Consist Editor ?

Cheers Gary

Derek
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Could some kind person supply a list similar to Garys, but that shows all the Warship Numbers and letter or code for their corresponding name to show up please ?

Thanks

Derek
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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shinymac wrote:Hi Gary

Silly me...I forgot that the Hymeks never carried names ! Doh.

Thanks for info on how to change numbers and names on the Warships too. Will give that a go.

I am interested to know how to change numbers "in game" rather than with RW Tools. Does this involve delving into the Consist Editor ?

Cheers Gary

Derek
Double click on the loco in scenario editor and a flyout should be on the right, move your mouse to it and you'll see the running number there. Click on the box and delete and replace.
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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I know this will sound a daft question to most people but where on earth do I out find how to get into the scenario editor,because I can never find it.

I can edit consists with RW Tools and create consists in game but neither of these lets you edit the locomotive,I think it's a shame that when a locomotive is made they don't come with 2 or 3 ready named and numbered, for people who have problems editing,I think there is more people than you realize who have problems editing items,after all all it can't take that much extra time to make 2 or 3 named and numbered locomotives.

Sorry if seems like I'm moaning,I really appreciate the 3 party model makers who make these or enhance models,thank you for doing them.
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Hi all, rather new here so please be gentle with me lol !

Having moved over here from the world of BVE I am impressed with how this sim has developed in the last few years, so am starting to get into things nicely now.

In reply to the post above, I have learnt my way around building scenarios my viewing Matt's excellent tutorials on Youtube, I'd suggest the above user tries the same.

See here

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Re: WR Hydraulics

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First, they DO come automatically numbered/named. When you place a loco in a scenario, it will randomly apply a number and corresponding name. The discussion about editing applies when you wish to change it, and/or force a specific loco number.

To edit a scenario, press ESC, World Editor. Then in the flyout panel on the left (which I leave pinned open), click on the Scenario Icon, which is top right of the panel, and looks a bit like a head-on front view of a Pendolino
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Just to add to Chris's instructions....
chrisonline wrote:Then in the flyout panel on the left
If you hover your mouse over any of the icons you'll see a wee 'tool tip' appear---a creamy-white box with incredibly small writing in it, but if your eyes/glasses/binoculars are up to the job you need to choose the one that pops up saying 'Scenario Tools' when you hover your mouse over it. I've contacted RSC/DTG more than once requesting something bigger be displayed as even a young bloke like me has difficulty reading 'em.
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michaelhendle wrote:I know this will sound a daft question to most people but where on earth do I out find how to get into the scenario editor,because I can never find it.

I can edit consists with RW Tools and create consists in game but neither of these lets you edit the locomotive,I think it's a shame that when a locomotive is made they don't come with 2 or 3 ready named and numbered, for people who have problems editing,I think there is more people than you realize who have problems editing items,after all all it can't take that much extra time to make 2 or 3 named and numbered locomotives.

Sorry if seems like I'm moaning,I really appreciate the 3 party model makers who make these or enhance models,thank you for doing them.
Mike
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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That's great if he wanted to make a new scenario max, but he's talking about editing existing ones.
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Hi
Thanks for your help my problem is I have lost the sight in one eye and partially sighted in the other eye, I can see large print, and have a screen big enough to play the game.
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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OK Mike,

load the scenario you wish to edit as if you were going to play it then either press the 'Esc' key on your keyboard or click the 'Pause' button on the HUD.
Either way you'll get the same menu up on screen so click on 'World Editor'

That gets you into the World Editor (what else would it be? :) ) which isn't the one you want---you need to drill a further step into the editing tools.
You may have the left hand slide out menu showing, but if not just move your mouse over to the top left hand edge of the screen and you'll get:

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I've circled the one you want to click on, as Chris wrote earlier it looks like the front of a Pendolino, so click on that. You'll get a warning on screen that progress in the scenario will be lost, click on 'Yes' and then you're in the 'Scenario Editor' itself.

Now fly about using the mouse to shift your view and the up/down/right/left arrow keys that are just to the right of the letter keys on your keyboard to steer--it'd be worthwhile just having a mad 10 minutes flying about to get used to it, it's really quite fun!!--and find the loco you want to renumber, if it's the driven one in the scenario you'll probably be right next to it.

Double click the loco and on the right hand side of your monitor you'll get another slide out window:

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once again, circled to show the bit you need/want to change...so, as an example if that box has 1002c2C07 in it but want to drive 1042 then you'd change the 1002c bit to 1042=
If you want to change the headcode display too just change the 2C07 bit to whatever you want.

When you've changed the number just click on the big orange right pointing arrow head in the bottom right of your screen. you'll be asked if you want to save the changes, so click on 'Yes' and the scenario will re-load from the start.
You may find that the number/name hasn't changed, so just exit the scenario and start again---sometimes the game needs to re-read all the information before a change is implemented.

Have a play about, have fun, see how many rude words you can write in the headcodes......and if you have any bother just pop back in and write a new post (no rude words in that though!! :wink: )
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Many thanks for explaining every thing for me and showing what should look for,
off to have a try.
Your help is appreciated.

Just a update,I paused the scenario,and got a menu showing,all of the things are showing up properly,except the world editor which is grayed out,if I click on it nothing happens.
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Re: WR Hydraulics

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Try Ctrl+E, Mike. That should take you straight into the World Editor. Then you can get into the Scenario Editor as in the earlier post.

Are you, by any chance, pausing a Career scenario? The limitations on editing them may well be causing you the problem you describe. If you are in a Career scenario then saving is disabled. You'll have to clone it in RW Tools and save the clone as a Standard or Timetable version. Then you can edit it and save your changes.

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Re: WR Hydraulics

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If the change you want to make can be done in RW Tools there's no need to clone---Career scenarios can be edited to some degree, certainly for a number change.
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