Chinley V3.1 Is out now

[CeeGee]

Hi Chaps

Visited a TS friend today, and installed Chinley V3 for him, but it doesnt work !

I downloaded and installed all the assets required from UKTS, and downloaded the Chinley main file from the wotsawollybits website, and extracted it manually as I do with all such routes. There was an error message when extracting the main file, saying that it was corrupt. But all the scenarios show in the game, but whenever he tries to load one he gets a crash dump error message.

Could it be that the main Chinley file on the wotsawollybits site IS CORRUPT ?

Can anyone help please ?

Thanks

Derek

The rwp file on Wotawallysbits.co.uk is the exact same rwp file as the one on Trainsim - and there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with it.

[SkylineBoy]

Hi Chaps

Visited a TS friend today, and installed Chinley V3 for him, but it doesnt work !

I downloaded and installed all the assets required from UKTS, and downloaded the Chinley main file from the wotsawollybits website, and extracted it manually as I do with all such routes. There was an error message when extracting the main file, saying that it was corrupt. But all the scenarios show in the game, but whenever he tries to load one he gets a crash dump error message.

Could it be that the main Chinley file on the wotsawollybits site IS CORRUPT ?

Can anyone help please ?

Thanks

Derek

I've just done a test install by doing it manually and on extracting the .rwp, it does throw a wobbly with WinRAR. I assume you either used this or the equivalent of Winzip? They can often throw a wobbly so use 7-Zip instead, it worked absolutely fine.

[gptech]

No problem with WinRAR for me: did you try extracting the contents of the .rwp whilst it was still in the .zip archive?---this can cause bother, presumably due to the double and/or differing compressions.

CeeGee....what's the purpose of the copy of the Networks folder in the Route folder, or is it just a mistake?

[CeeGee]

CeeGee....what's the purpose of the copy of the Networks folder in the Route folder, or is it just a mistake?

I didn't package the route. You will have to ask John.

[SkylineBoy]

No problem with WinRAR for me: did you try extracting the contents of the .rwp whilst it was still in the .zip archive?---this can cause bother, presumably due to the double and/or differing compressions.

No, I removed it from the archive first. Probably just another case of differing systems=differing situations.

[gptech]

No problem with WinRAR for me: did you try extracting the contents of the .rwp whilst it was still in the .zip archive?---this can cause bother, presumably due to the double and/or differing compressions.

No, I removed it from the archive first. Probably just another case of differing systems=differing situations.

Ta Sky, as you say--different strokes; probably dependant on variables such as phase of the moon, local time in Tokyo...... one of life's wee mysteries.

Mike...same question to you, if you're trying to extract an archive that itself lives in an archive (probably doesn't matter about any compression, just the fact that it'll most likely have the 'archive' attribute set) you can run in to bother---we found when sorting out a full .rwp for the District Line that some of the individual packages would run OK from within the .zip archive the whole lot was transferred in, but some wouldn't---and to corroborate Sky's thoughts, many of those that wouldn't 'play ball' for one guy were perfectly behaved for the next.
I suppose the best advice I can give is to always extract a .rwp from it's containing .zip before trying to install it manually.

[gptech]

I didn't package the route.....

Ta, not that it's a major thing but you know I'm nosey...

[shinymac]

Hi Gary et al

I installed this route for my friend, using the same method I have used for all such routes and assets in the past...

Basically I rename the rwp file to a zip file, which then means I can extract it using WinRAR, and then manually copy and paste the files within the extracted Assets and Contents folders into their required places. I have never ever had this problem in the past. My friend doesnt use utilities.exe and doesn't want to install 7-ZIP.

So can anyone suggest another remedy please ? It is odd that the route and scenarios show up in Trainsim, but none of them work.

Cheers

Derek

[SkylineBoy]

My friend doesnt use utilities.exe and doesn't want to install 7-ZIP.

That is a remedy.

I've no idea why they wouldn't want to install it. It's open source, completely free, completely safe and is arguably the best all round program for the task.

[gptech]

I rename the rwp file to a zip file, which then means I can extract it using WinRAR

Firstly, no need to rename it---WinRAR will open .rwp archives, you may actually have brought on the issues by renaming the file.

Secondly,

That is a remedy.

you won't see it often, but I'm agreeing with somebody---7-Zip is a proven, safe, trustworthy, very capable piece of software, one that I'd struggle to find a reason NOT to use. I will argue with Sky though about it being *arguably* the best all rounder, there's no argument about that argument in my book (in case anybody is confused by that, buy a dictionary and learn what the word 'argument' really means, not just how it's used---where's Ash when you need him?)

[michaelhendle]

I've been using 7zip date back to MSTS days and have never had any problems with it in all those years,I had no problems unzipping Chinley V3.1 and it works fine on my clapped out laapy.

[ashgray]

[<SNIP> buy a dictionary and learn what the word 'argument' really means, not just how it's used---where's Ash when you need him?)

Argument: "the expression of opinions for and against some idea". That's the civilised definition anyway.

If prolonged, it transforms into a "dispute"; when undertaken between couples, then it's "bickering" (or "nagging" if SWMBO is too scary to disagree with) and when done just for fun over the Internet, it's "trolling" or a "flame-war"!

Ash

[749006]

I installed this route on a friends computer today.

I download the original ZIP file, Chinley_v3.zip, from Wotawallys site.
I used 7Zip to "Extract to Chinley_v3"
I then opened the recently created folder and found the "Chinley_v3.rwp"
Again I used 7Zip to "Extract Here"

After the files had been extracted I copied them to the respective places in the Railworks Directories

And it worked without problem.

Peter

[CeeGee]

Great route and well put together. Couple of problems for me though and this is meant as constructive advice for route author. Number 1. I was just about to start writing a scenario and I only got as far as selecting the start position marker. Problem there are no start markers to select. You have to except the default then drag the marker for miles to the other end of the route. Route needs a scenario marker file. 2. Some of the points are very tight on main running lines. You would have a job getting a 4 coupled loco over them without spreading the gauge. Apart from those niggles a great route

I've just had a look to see why the markers aren't showing and it is simply an incorrect path in the RouteProperties.xml
Anyone who needs the markers can find the details on the route page: http://www.wotawallysbits.co.uk/jetgriff-routes

[sean53]

Thanks for that CeeGee. Just started a scenario on another route so will come back to this later. Only wish a fix for the overly tight points was as easy