Atomic Systems

A must have for me.
Great video of the real thing, what I don't understand is how on earth there are no accidents without a man walking in front of the tram with a Fluorescent Jacket, Safety Helmet , Clipboard and Red Flag/Flashing Light.
Puzzled John

Probably for the same reason that many lines in Europe are not fenced in. The local population are expected to show common sense, and to use modern speech, take ownership of their own actions and their consequences.

xguerra wrote:

IronBidder wrote:I don't blame Thompson for going with the money.

Before we get into the same arguments that have plagued this forum before:

1) Neither me or you know how much this will cost, nor who in this instance is deciding the cost.

2) The cost/km can't really be helped whatever it is since the line in reality is more or less a self-contained operation. Trains in normal operation don't cross from the Arosa line to the main Rhatische Bahn network.

You misunderstand me. I was referring to the change from WCML to alpine routes, not whether this offering is good or bad value for money.

IronBidder wrote:

xguerra wrote:

IronBidder wrote:I don't blame Thompson for going with the money.

Before we get into the same arguments that have plagued this forum before:

1) Neither me or you know how much this will cost, nor who in this instance is deciding the cost.

2) The cost/km can't really be helped whatever it is since the line in reality is more or less a self-contained operation. Trains in normal operation don't cross from the Arosa line to the main Rhatische Bahn network.

You misunderstand me. I was referring to the change from WCML to alpine routes, not whether this offering is good or bad value for money.

Oh, I do humbly apologise for the confusion.

I just found building another swiss route as "going with the money" misleading.

holzroller wrote:Probably for the same reason that many lines in Europe are not fenced in. The local population are expected to show common sense, and to use modern speech, take ownership of their own actions and their consequences.

I remember being in a station in Switzerland once - and not once did I hear anyone being advised to "hold on to the handrail and take care on the stairs". I can't understand why they weren't all dropping like flies!

IronBidder wrote:I wish they would have one final go at the WCML Euston to Birmingham or Stafford to Rugby via Birmingham.

Who's to say they won't? Variety is the spice of life and all that; so for a builder. having a change of scenery from 'Dear old Blighty' could be a very welcome change indeed.

tluamiani1 wrote:

JackRyan wrote:I'm a bit confused about the picture. Why is a passenger train hauling two freight wagons?

It's quite commonplace on Swiss Railways.

It's used on Some of the Swiss Narrow Gauge railways - like the RhB

The Chur - Arosa line used to be Loco Hauled and then Push - Pull with a Ge 4/4II & a Driving Trailer.
Because these lines are all single track and passing loops it's a common practice to add freight veichles.

Also the unit in the pictures is the new Alegra which is very powerful and can pull at least 8 passenger cars
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/nar ... 807-14.jpg
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ch/nar ... ob-ag1.jpg

But this line is not for me - I might have purchased it for a Ge 4/4II but not a plastic kart

Peter

Springer6 wrote:The old freeware Albula Route covers this section as well. http://rail-sim.de/forum/wsif/index.php ... hn-v-2-0b/

I think you are confusing the Bernina line with the Arosa line - the freeware version of the Albula route did not go to Chur - from what I recall.

Peter

749006 wrote:

Springer6 wrote:The old freeware Albula Route covers this section as well. http://rail-sim.de/forum/wsif/index.php ... hn-v-2-0b/

I think you are confusing the Bernina line with the Arosa line - the freeware version of the Albula route did not go to Chur - from what I recall.

Peter

Yes, Peter is right. The freeware Albula = Albula + Bernina.

I'm very excited for this DLC. Thomson Interactive does excellent work, with the West Highland Extension and the Albula routes being among my top favorites for train sim. I do wonder, though, why they went with the Arosa line instead of the Bernina line for their next RhB DLC. The Bernina line is (arguably) more well-known, more scenic, and more interesting to drive, with better flexibility in freight, switching, and passenger operations. Not to be a naysayer, though, because I'm certain I'll be a happy customer once the Arosa line is released.

More info - must be getting close

https://train-simulator.com/beauty-in-the-peaks/

Peter

Wonder if they will have any passenger scenario's like in the Albula route? Still have no idea how one makes them?

IronBidder wrote:I don't blame Thompson for going with the money, and this looks a lovely route, but I wish they would have one final go at the WCML Euston to Birmingham or Stafford to Rugby via Birmingham.

The world doesn't revolve around the British Isles. I'm happy they're going with a change of scenery as this is something relatively unique. One concern that I have is the route itself as it doesn't seem to have too many industries or "main-lines." Regardless, something that I will place in my wish-list.

CapitolLimited wrote:

IronBidder wrote:I don't blame Thompson for going with the money, and this looks a lovely route, but I wish they would have one final go at the WCML Euston to Birmingham or Stafford to Rugby via Birmingham.

The world doesn't revolve around the British Isles. I'm happy they're going with a change of scenery as this is something relatively unique. One concern that I have is the route itself as it doesn't seem to have too many industries or "main-lines." Regardless, something that I will place in my wish-list.

The whole RhB network is like that. It's unique in being a railway network with a public service like any other day-to-day railway but with a gentle more informal feel.
It's distinctly a railway of passenger rather than freight.
Maybe as non-Swiss people we're used to more manic heavy-duty railway operations and feel in some way detached from railway systems like the RhB, MOB, BOB or Brunig for example where because they run through the terrain they do, can't be huge and laden with activity yet support commuters or casual passenger flows.

Out now, get yours while it's fresh!

http://store.steampowered.com/app/62187 ... ute_AddOn/

Cheers,

--Tim