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How do i merge GOBLIN with Danny's workshop route

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I want to merge GOBLIN with North, South, West London and Thameslink as i'm building a mega route for my personal use, As the title suggests I would like to merge GOBLIN so that I can have the scenery on the WLL and also the GOBLIN line. I plan to extend to Watford Junction so that I can run Southern services from Brighton.

My setup runs NSWL&TL with little effort so expansion shouldn't be a problem.
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If the route's have different origins then it's really a non-starter, so that's the first thing to check.
If that turns out to be true then search for "route merge tool for Railworks" ---- I haven't the URL to hand but it's an Italian piece of software.
Once you have that spend time de-ciphering the instructions.
As always, a back up before you start is essential, and having a play around with a simple test route wouldn't go amiss.
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I think you will find that Danny has already merged all that can be merged, and he has commented (not sure where, I read it third party) that those not done, cannot be done (for reasons of route origin as mentioned by Gary above)

Those he has done are in the Workshop
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chrisonline wrote:I think you will find that Danny has already merged all that can be merged, and he has commented (not sure where, I read it third party) that those not done, cannot be done (for reasons of route origin as mentioned by Gary above)

Those he has done are in the Workshop
That's what I couldn't get my head around, He's merged South London Lines with GOBLIN but not with London-Brighton, yet South London Lines can be merged with London - Brighton. I might just change my plans and extend of North, South, West London and Thameslink doing the scenery for the West London Line from scratch as that's the only bit I wanted, GOBLIN wasn't a big deal to begin with :)
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London-Brigton and Goblin should merge, they share an origin---the issue may be that they also share a big chunk of rail network so to *properly* merge them you'd need to edit one (or rather a clone of one) to only contain the bits that aren't already there in the other. If you only want the NLL from the Goblin route adding then I'd certainly suggest doing it that way; cloning the route and then editing that clone to only contain the bit you want.

If anybody's reading this and wondering just where to get the merging tool from....

http://www.mcs-software.it/rs/MergeRoute_en/
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If you go on to Xavier's freeware website, he's already created a backdated route (set in the mid-1980s) after merging the NLL with the WLL and GOBLIN.

As Gary stated, the thing everyone needs to remember with merging routes of course is that some of these DLC routes offered by DTG have the same Stations and Depots included, so, you possibly wouldn't be able to merge every route together as that would mean having 2 lots of Stations at Victoria, Waterloo, Clapham Junction, St. Pancras, etc, and 2 lots of Stewarts Lane Depots and Willesden Yard and the Ford Plant at Dagenham, etc, etc. To delete all the duplications and get the trackwork 100% perfect with working signals and AWS, lofts, superelevation, scenery, stations, roads, housing estates, warehousing, etc, sounds like a monumental task that might take years to complete.

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tango4262 wrote:I want to merge GOBLIN with North, South, West London and Thameslink as i'm building a mega route for my personal use, As the title suggests I would like to merge GOBLIN so that I can have the scenery on the WLL and also the GOBLIN line. I plan to extend to Watford Junction so that I can run Southern services from Brighton.

My setup runs NSWL&TL with little effort so expansion shouldn't be a problem.
If it means anything I do plan to add London to Brighton on to South London Network and Goblin, just need to finish the platform extensions on the Goblin + South London Network first :).
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TransportSteve wrote: sounds like a monumental task that might take years to complete.
It's actually not that bad Steve; around the point of merging you have to be careful about what you delete, but once in an area that won't be used you can just click on the ground, draw a big circle and press the delete key (I removed 98% of the freeware SWW to leave just the 2 miles or so of track leading to Bridgend in about half an hour---admittedly that was my 4th or 5th attempt at merging, but all part of the learning process :) ). All you really need to worry about is the track and track linked objects; scenery, lofts, roads, terrain, mixmap tiles can just be copied over as their tile IDs will suit the route. There's very little messing about with signals etc needed, unless of course they're bust in the donor route.
After the merge you may just have to fettle the point of merging a smidgen, and many would say you should leave a gap anyway, but that isn't too hard a job.
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I thought i'd give it a go as the house is asleep, I've downloaded the merge tool and framework as advised, selected the routes and tiles I want to merge using the editor tool for reference. I then came out of the sim and pressed merge selected routes and after confirming I wish to do so I am confronted by an 'Unhandled Exception Error' this is because it is unable to access C/:Serz. So my initial instinct was to find this file and change the priorities to Run as Administrator, but this has made no difference and i'm still getting the error.

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Run the merge tool under an Administrator account.
Serz.exe lives in your Railworks directory, it's part of the game. What you're getting.g reported will be a temporary copy. Don't go diving in changing file/folder properties or permissions----you can cause a lot of bother for yourself doing that.
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Thanks that's solved that, now i'm confronted with a new error that says Access to the path C:\Bs.bin is denied.


Thanks for your help so far on this Gary.
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Interesting....the other member I mentioned in the pm had exactly the same errors on one machine, but not another. Are you running Windows 10?
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Interesting....the other member I mentioned in the PM had exactly the same errors on one machine, but not another. Are you running Windows 10?

Strictly speaking, the root of any drive, and particularly the System Drive, shouldn't have files written to it--other than system files such as pagefile.sys, or going back many years config.sys/autoexec.bat--but only folders which contain files. If a file is being written to the root it's nigh on certainly a temporary copy for that instance only. Changing any permissions wouldn't 'stick' as the next time s file of that name in that location is called for it'd be a completely new copy, with it's own attributes.

Short of running under the built in (but disabled by default) Administrator account or taking full control of the root I can't come up with anything else. Neither of those is to be recommended though; taking control of the root would only be something to do as the last, last resort in extreme circumstances, using the built in Administrator account is the last resort before that.
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Interesting.... Yes, Windows 10 pro 64bit.
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tango4262 wrote:Interesting.... Yes, Windows 10 pro 64bit.
That could very well be the cause---just waiting for some information regarding the OS used on the other 2 machines. If it does pan out to be a Win 10 issue then the best option would be to track down the author of the merging tool; I'm certain his contact details are somewhere in the documentation or on the download page, but he'd be the one best placed to suss out a fix (hopefully anyway)
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