Electrics running on non electric lines

[gptech]

However I've solved my problem for now

Splendid, even if between us all we haven't found the complete answer we've made progress!

[superalbs]

Is there a way of getting electric train to run on non electric lines, I have a reskin of a class 377 into LM class 172, I am trying to get them to run on the Chiltern mainline but as there are electric they will not path.

I have just uploaded a Class 172 LM reskin onto my website and the UKTS file library, if this would be of any interest to you.

It runs off diesel straight from the get go, in both player and AI mode, and also has Class 170 sounds from the DTG Academy pack.

Links:
http://superalbs.weebly.com/class172londonmidland.html
http://uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php? ... leid=36788

[749006]

.......... was waiting until I have played around with them again to link to diesel unit sound, not quite sure what they sounds most like 165 or a 170 though

The 172 sounds different to most other units as they have a 4 speed Gearbox which changes automatically.
If you have the Goblin lime then those 172 sounds should be similar to the West Mids version.

Peter

[Springer6]

Is there a way of getting electric train to run on non electric lines, I have a reskin of a class 377 into LM class 172, I am trying to get them to run on the Chiltern mainline but as there are electric they will not path.

I have just uploaded a Class 172 LM reskin onto my website and the UKTS file library, if this would be of any interest to you.

It runs off diesel straight from the get go, in both player and AI mode, and also has Class 170 sounds from the DTG Academy pack.

Links:
http://superalbs.weebly.com/class172londonmidland.html
http://uktrainsim.com/filelib-info.php? ... leid=36788

Excellent thank you, I can't wait to try this. If it is anything like your bi-mode version of the 801 ( 800 ) it will be great !

I will be very interested to see how you did this.

However having now looked at your files, I can see that it is extremely complex and involved a lot of hard work, beyond the capabilities of most of us ( well me at least ) . Thanks for doing this.

[david1]

I have just uploaded a Class 172 LM reskin onto my website and the UKTS file library, if this would be of any interest to you.

Yes does work as AI, but does not drive though, thanks for your upload will swap out for your version

[smarty2]

Just tried to use SuperAlbs 172 reskin on the Chiltern with a QD but no destinations can be selected? Yes those 172 sounds aliased to these would be fantastic.

[gptech]

Nice reskin, but it doesn't really answer the initial question...

Is there a way of getting electric train to run on non electric lines, I have a reskin of a class 377 into LM class 172.....

[749006]

Nice reskin, but it doesn't really answer the initial question...

Is there a way of getting electric train to run on non electric lines, I have a reskin of a class 377 into LM class 172.....

The original question does not mention if the 172 was to be a drivers train or AI.
If it was just going to be used as AI then this reskin Does answer the original question.
Even the OP seemed happy -

Yes does work as AI, but does not drive though, thanks for your upload will swap out for your version

Peter

[gptech]

As getting the 172/377 running as a diesel AI train was *sorted* much earlier on Peter, it makes this reskin superfluous for that task. Don't forget that the discussion has moved on to try and find out what needs to be done to achieve the same for driven services, and not just confined to this particular base model. Of course there will be differences between models so what works on one may not be enough for another but knowing where to look, and for what, is surely a useful thing to know.

[smarty2]

Would the answer be to use an invisible diesel loco with it scripted to be used dvt style? Just a throw away thought. I know TTB use an invisible loco for holding up your train at signals.

[gptech]

Not really Martin, Albie's solution is much simpler---borrow the simulation file(s) from an appropriate diesel loco/MU. No need for complicated scripts that way!
I've been having a tinker since getting in from work, and once you get yer 'ed round the necessary directory structure it make sense---not a lot, but sense is there

[smarty2]

So, I may well be driving a 172 on the Chiltern from JT then?

Ha, just noticed that you can drive it on the Chiltern, I was looking at a reskin for the 377 not the 172! Noticed an anomaly with the reskin though? http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =920073597
It appears at the back of the consist too and it disappears if you pan the camera to the left of the train? Also a query about the brakes, when you select 33% you get full service! I'm assuming that is wrong?

[gptech]

Also a query about the brakes, when you select 33% you get full service! I'm assuming that is wrong?

As far as I'm aware the reskin doesn't alter anything simulation wise, so t'd be worthwhile checking the brakes on your default 377s...if they exhibit the same, then it's the default scripting that's *odd*.
Haven't noticed any graphical abnormalities whilst I've been 'investigating' (aka clicking here there and everywhere and hoping to get lucky) but admittedly haven't tried a full consist on the Chiltern line.

EDIT: Just tried a 2 car (DMOS+DMOS) from Snow Hill to Tyseley with no graphical issues, and 30 odd % braking (couldn't get it to hit 33) just gave direct braking, not full service. Admittedly this was with a rather customised version of the DMOS but still using the same simulation and scripts. As nobody else seems to have bother (or be interested?) I'll happily accept that this is another quirk of your PC
Just try the default 375/377 look alike that the reskin is based upon and see if that's the same.

[AndyUK]

FWIW on the default 375s and 377s, I don't have the 172 reskin, I get a Step 1 brake pressure of approx. 1.1 bar with the controller in the -33% position as shown on the F3 HUD. Step 3, or Full Service, needs -80% on mine.

Andy L