Atomic Systems

another London based route! I know of 9 from to around London.while Birmingham 0 Manchester/Liverpool 1 Leeds/Bradford Hull 0. there routes North of Watford DTG.

skoda wrote:From the questions and answers at the bottom of the DTG Orange Goblin page......

which still doesn't state that a 172 will be bundled with the route, which was the point I was making.

dingerb wrote:another London based route! I know of 9 from to around London.while Birmingham 0 Manchester/Liverpool 1 Leeds/Bradford Hull 0. there routes North of Watford DTG.

York - Newcastle
WCML-N
WCMLoS
SECML
Edinburgh- Glasgow (to name a few)

Of course there's nothing preventing you from building and releasing a route is there?

IMHO London routes offer the best potential for AI variety, lets face it London has the most intensive amount of lines all criss-crossing each other with many different TOC's and freight trains to be seen.

Bear in mind as well market research!

tango4262 wrote:IMHO London routes offer the best potential for AI variety

Before we get way off topic and claim that our 'personal most wanted route' should be produced, just what is the potential for interesting traffic on Gospel Oak to Barking?

gptech wrote:

tango4262 wrote:IMHO London routes offer the best potential for AI variety

Before we get way off topic and claim that our 'personal most wanted route' should be produced, just what is the potential for interesting traffic on Gospel Oak to Barking?

From what I have seen in pictures, plenty of freight (mostly in the hands of 66's), either coming off the MML at Carlton Road Junction and the NLL and heading towards the ECML and GEML.

As for the freight itself, Car and van trains, aggregates and containers

tango4262 wrote:

gptech wrote:

tango4262 wrote:IMHO London routes offer the best potential for AI variety

Before we get way off topic and claim that our 'personal most wanted route' should be produced, just what is the potential for interesting traffic on Gospel Oak to Barking?

From what I have seen in pictures, plenty of freight (mostly in the hands of 66's), either coming off the MML at Carlton Road Junction and the NLL and heading towards the ECML and GEML.

As for the freight itself, Car and van trains, aggregates and containers

correctly spend a day at barkin and count all the freight trains you will see there are loads some people just like to moan at anything DTG do sadly

Is there stock to populate the LT and LTSR lines at Barking?

DaveW

Is it possible to convert a Turbostar into an EMU, using the PTSO from the 377 and then add the AP Electrostar sounds?

tango4262 wrote:Is it possible to convert a Turbostar into an EMU, using the PTSO from the 377 and then add the AP Electrostar sounds?

Yes it would be possible to arrange the consist. About the sounds I don't know.

wills44422 wrote:

trevb wrote:Looking forward to this route.

Isn't there a link between the GEML and GOBLIN to the north of Woodgrange Park?

It doesn't directly create a link between the two. You'll have to reverse at Barking to go onto the Goblin.

That's where the C2C line from Fenchurch Street meets the GOBLIN at Barking. I was referring to the link with the GEML north of Woodgrange Park.

trevb wrote:

wills44422 wrote:

trevb wrote:Looking forward to this route.

Isn't there a link between the GEML and GOBLIN to the north of Woodgrange Park?

It doesn't directly create a link between the two. You'll have to reverse at Barking to go onto the Goblin.

That's where the C2C line from Fenchurch Street meets the GOBLIN at Barking. I was referring to the link with the GEML north of Woodgrange Park.

I think the confusion is that yes you access the GEML from Woodgrange Park, but in the Barking direction.
To access the GOBLIN in the Gospel Oak direction, a reversal has to be done at either Woodgrange Park or Barking.

tango4262 wrote:Is it possible to convert a Turbostar into an EMU, using the PTSO from the 377 and then add the AP Electrostar sounds?

It might look a bit strange as the 170/1/2 units are 23 metre but you would have a 20 metre power car.

On the other hand someone did a LM 172 using 20 metre Electrostar units and a diesel sound and although the bodies are short there all the same length so it looks ok.

Peter

tango4262 wrote:Is it possible to convert a Turbostar into an EMU, using the PTSO from the 377 and then add the AP Electrostar sounds?

Yes it is ,