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Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:15 pm
by NickG
Do we know who they are yet?

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 1:27 pm
by ade72
smarty2 wrote:Cheers Mike, I could have googled it but I like to exercise my train sim mates knowledge! :D
I was hoping to earn spotter points for answering this one, but I got ninja'd by Mike :D . I use 458/5s regularly, there's a mix of different windows on the carriages depending whether they came from a 460 or a 458/4. I use the ECML quite often too, and could see them in various stages of conversion going past Doncaster. Shame that they had to remove the pointy nosecones...

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 2:19 pm
by smarty2
Any pics? Sorry you missed out on scoring points! :evilbat:

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:17 pm
by peb52
rosschris10 wrote:
GatwickSpotting wrote:I can appreciate the excitement Ross, but it is probably best to hold off with such bold statements until the release of the product- as you've always said, you can't judge a product until its out. 8)

sorry Jordi but these trains were excellent and the devs have hit this right on the head. As usual when another Certain Developer (whom shall remain nameless as i am not prmoting there work in another devs threads) appear even when its just a picture the usual crowd appear saying it is the next best thing since slice bread.

So yes i am excited for this and cant wait and i will quite rightly praise the developrs just like that certain developers crowd always does.

Sadly i will not start spammming this thread with the silly shut up and take my money memes :P
No, you're just spamming this thread praising the developer who hasn't even released a dlc and how many times do you have to say "day one purchase for me" that's just as bad as "take my money"

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 3:52 pm
by tango4262
peb52 wrote:
rosschris10 wrote:
GatwickSpotting wrote:I can appreciate the excitement Ross, but it is probably best to hold off with such bold statements until the release of the product- as you've always said, you can't judge a product until its out. 8)

sorry Jordi but these trains were excellent and the devs have hit this right on the head. As usual when another Certain Developer (whom shall remain nameless as i am not prmoting there work in another devs threads) appear even when its just a picture the usual crowd appear saying it is the next best thing since slice bread.

So yes i am excited for this and cant wait and i will quite rightly praise the developrs just like that certain developers crowd always does.

Sadly i will not start spammming this thread with the silly shut up and take my money memes :P
No, you're just spamming this thread praising the developer who hasn't even released a dlc and how many times do you have to say "day one purchase for me" that's just as bad as "take my money"

That developer has years of back catalogue to show for themselves, hence why they can show a picture and people automatically know the SOUNDS are going to be good. That developer has worked years to earn that reputation. Why are you even mentioning them in this thread to begin with if you don't want to promote their work in another devs thread?

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:13 pm
by rosschris10
Because the very minute a new route or train is announced in here that dtg are making. The usual "I hope ## do a sound pack for this" "the cab looks bad I hope ## do a enhancement pack for this train"

So it's all ok for ## to be mentioned ans spammed in every thread a usual

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:16 pm
by rosschris10
NickG wrote:Do we know who they are yet?
I have heard rumours of who is behind this great company of developers and same names keep appearing however i wouldn't find it right for me or anyone to reveal them. That is down to the individuals

All I will say is if the rumours are true this is one hell of a team of developers that will finally enhance this sim to its full potential finally

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:25 pm
by gptech
Just an observation....

peb52 wrote:the developer who hasn't even released a dlc

NickG wrote:Do we know who they are yet?


For all we know, the guys/girls making up Master Key Simulations may have a huge back catalogue of stuff we already use. OK, we don't recognise the name and the proof of the pudding will come after we've tasted the dessert but everybody starts off as having never released anything.

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:26 pm
by 749006
tango4262 wrote:
rosschris10 wrote:
GatwickSpotting wrote:I can appreciate the excitement Ross, but it is probably best to hold off with such bold statements until the release of the product- as you've always said, you can't judge a product until its out. 8)
sorry Jordi but these trains were excellent and the devs have hit this right on the head. As usual when another Certain Developer (whom shall remain nameless as i am not prmoting there work in another devs threads) appear even when its just a picture the usual crowd appear saying it is the next best thing since slice bread.

So yes i am excited for this and cant wait and i will quite rightly praise the developrs just like that certain developers crowd always does.

Sadly i will not start spammming this thread with the silly shut up and take my money memes :P
That developer has years of back catalogue to show for themselves, hence why they can show a picture and people automatically know the SOUNDS are going to be good. That developer has worked years to earn that reputation. Why are you even mentioning them in this thread to begin with if you don't want to promote their work in another devs thread?
As Master Key Simulations have not released any DLC yet how rossschris can say
rosschris10 wrote:THEse guys (are) going to Be the best 3rd party developers in this community by far that train looks and sounds absolutely amazing!!!
when we have seen a picture of the inside of a 460 emu cab and an outside view.?
Ignoring what you see outside the window inside I saw the brake needle move to step 1 and back, I heard the AWS and the horn sounded like a Class 47? :lol:
Although the lead coach was a power car I did not hear any motor sounds or any rail joint sounds.

We have seen quite a few models appear in this sim which look great from the outside but the physics and sounds were not up to a good standard.

I will need to see more than just a cab ride with to warrant buying an emu that only ran over the 28 miles or so non stop to and from Gatwick.

Peter

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 5:46 pm
by 31160
749006 wrote: an emu that only ran over the 28 miles or so non stop to and from Gatwick.

Peter

Peter
Very good point that mind i know we have the route thats suitable but its not going to be high on the list for variety this one

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:45 pm
by Irishrailguy
31160 wrote: an emu that only ran over the 28 miles or so non stop to and from Gatwick.
If I remember correctly they ran over the entire BML in the latter years of their service?
749006 wrote:Although the lead coach was a power car I did not hear any motor sounds or any rail joint sounds.
Power bogies on the driving coaches for the 460 are located at the cab end, but the motors themselves are located at the rear of the coach, so I'd imagine that the cab would be rather quiet as opposed to the rear seating compartment. However even at that it's probably worth noting that the motors were quite quiet compared to other EMUs (I've traveled on 458s and found the motor coaches to be almost silent aside from ambient running noises).

Kev

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:02 pm
by rosschris10
Irishrailguy wrote:
31160 wrote: an emu that only ran over the 28 miles or so non stop to and from Gatwick.
If I remember correctly they ran over the entire BML in the latter years of their service?
749006 wrote:Although the lead coach was a power car I did not hear any motor sounds or any rail joint sounds.
Power bogies on the driving coaches for the 460 are located at the cab end, but the motors themselves are located at the rear of the coach, so I'd imagine that the cab would be rather quiet as opposed to the rear seating compartment. However even at that it's probably worth noting that the motors were quite quiet compared to other EMUs (I've traveled on 458s and found the motor coaches to be almost silent aside from ambient running noises).

Kev
yeah i was just thinking that as well i am sure they ran from Victoria to Brighton when that new timetable change in came

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:11 pm
by tango4262
749006 wrote: As Master Key Simulations have not released any DLC yet how rossschris can say
rosschris10 wrote:THEse guys (are) going to Be the best 3rd party developers in this community by far that train looks and sounds absolutely amazing!!!
when we have seen a picture of the inside of a 460 emu cab and an outside view.?
Ignoring what you see outside the window inside I saw the brake needle move to step 1 and back, I heard the AWS and the horn sounded like a Class 47? :lol:
Although the lead coach was a power car I did not hear any motor sounds or any rail joint sounds.

We have seen quite a few models appear in this sim which look great from the outside but the physics and sounds were not up to a good standard.

I will need to see more than just a cab ride with to warrant buying an emu that only ran over the 28 miles or so non stop to and from Gatwick.

Peter

I was referring to the "certain developer" that rosschris was talking about, when I said "SOUNDS" that was meant to be a hint to who I figured he was referring to.

Re: Master Key Simulations

Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:17 pm
by Easilyconfused
Locked pending further action.

Do not necessarily expect action tonight since I need to consider my actions and responses and not act in the heat of the moment.

Anyone opening a new thread will be dealt with in accordance with the forum rules.