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Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:16 pm
by 749006
rfletcher72 wrote:749006 wrote:I wonder if current owners get a free upgrade or a discount?
Peter
Not sure on what grounds people would qualify if I'm honest. AP snapped up the currently available DLC 2nd hand from DT, and given the age of these - plus with the quality of each being poles apart (a reasonable assumption given we already have some in game by which to make physical comparisons), it's a big ask in my book.
For all intents and purposes, these two items might as well be chalk and cheese.
Good point. I have had my moneys worth out of the DT/AP set and I will buy this when available.
Peter
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:06 pm
by 31160
A thought has occurred to me,would it be possible to have different roof colour shades/weathering on two types of the same livery to make up a more realistic rake?
Also era correct tail lamps ie. oil lamps for Blue Grey/ original IC and Scotrail and the newer flashing one for everything else
And it's worth remembering that NSE had one? Aircon in the W of E pool in 1991 although as we don't have the route the usefulness of it would be debatable but I can remember it did have a trip to Carlise on a ADEX once
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:22 pm
by GatwickSpotting
31160 wrote:A thought has occurred to me,would it be possible to have different roof colour shades/weathering on two types of the same livery to make up a more realistic rake?
Also era correct tail lamps ie. oil lamps for Blue Grey/ original IC and Scotrail and the newer flashing one for everything else
And it's worth remembering that NSE had one? Aircon in the W of E pool in 1991 although as we don't have the route the usefulness of it would be debatable but I can remember it did have a trip to Carlise on a ADEX once
Different colour shades would be difficult without consuming much more memory than desired- but something to that effect is included and will be revealed in due time.
On the subject of items like era correct tail lamps, and one-off liveries: Whilst technically possible to do, a balance has to be struck otherwise a simple carriage/wagon pack would take as much time/work as a full loco/unit release- and would be priced accordingly! However, I'm sure there will still be enough covered in this pack to accurately replicate a huge majority of the Mk2F/D services- current and historic.
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:36 pm
by 31160
GatwickSpotting wrote:31160 wrote:A thought has occurred to me,would it be possible to have different roof colour shades/weathering on two types of the same livery to make up a more realistic rake?
Also era correct tail lamps ie. oil lamps for Blue Grey/ original IC and Scotrail and the newer flashing one for everything else
And it's worth remembering that NSE had one? Aircon in the W of E pool in 1991 although as we don't have the route the usefulness of it would be debatable but I can remember it did have a trip to Carlise on a ADEX once
Different colour shades would be difficult without consuming much more memory than desired- but something to that effect is included and will be revealed in due time.
On the subject of items like era correct tail lamps, and one-off liveries: Whilst technically possible to do, a balance has to be struck otherwise a simple carriage/wagon pack would take as much time/work as a full loco/unit release- and would be priced accordingly! However, I'm sure there will still be enough covered in this pack to accurately replicate a huge majority of the Mk2F/D services- current and historic.
I'm sure there will be Sir please don't take that as a moan I'm sure it will be well worth the asking price, the work you have put in looks superb
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:39 pm
by 40058
Great that BR coaching stock is getting a look in and these look the business... hope to see the "non air con" MK2's at some point MK2-2C
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:55 pm
by GatwickSpotting
31160 wrote:I'm sure there will be Sir please don't take that as a moan I'm sure it will be well worth the asking price, the work you have put in looks superb
Thank you, and of course it is not taken as a moan! I'm a stickler for the little details and odd liveries, but having a fair scope for a project is the difference between something we see
will this year, and something we might see this decade.
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 10:30 pm
by deltic009
GatwickSpotting wrote:31160 wrote:I'm sure there will be Sir please don't take that as a moan I'm sure it will be well worth the asking price, the work you have put in looks superb
Thank you, and of course it is not taken as a moan! I'm a stickler for the little details and odd liveries, but having a fair scope for a project is the difference between something we see
will this year, and something we might see this decade.
And these will be the perfect companions to my Deltics if I ever stop fiddling, tweaking and refining all imaginable aspects and more.
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 7:06 am
by 31160
I'm sure your deltic pack will look lovely booming along on these, but that apart with the exception of the 90 I think the detail on these will seriously show up the now very elderly 47, any chance someone will have a breathe over one to represent a later era one, the base of the WSR 47840 is quite good with the buffer beam cowlings cut away but then u got the working HC box, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't got this on their list of things anyway mind
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 10:37 am
by deltic009
31160 wrote:I'm sure your deltic pack will look lovely booming along on these, but that apart with the exception of the 90 I think the detail on these will seriously show up the now very elderly 47, any chance someone will have a breathe over one to represent a later era one, the base of the WSR 47840 is quite good with the buffer beam cowlings cut away but then u got the working HC box, I wouldn't be surprised if someone hasn't got this on their list of things anyway mind
If only the sealed high beam had been a node you can script away I think we would have seen loads done too.
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 packoo
Posted: Thu Oct 20, 2016 2:56 pm
by 749006
31160 wrote:Also era correct tail lamps ie. oil lamps for Blue Grey/ original IC and Scotrail and the newer flashing one for everything else
I don't think you can define tail lamps to the livery change - what do you have on the rear of a mixed rake of stock?
I will be just happy with a working Tail Lamp on the last vehicle
Peter
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2016 11:53 pm
by tycoonkid9
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:41 am
by rosschris10
Out on Wednesday according to the latest post on there Facebook page
Looking a thing the picture of the complete line line up I do dont imagine there are 250 different variants in that picture Is that 250 different variants include duplicates of weathered a and unweathered units ???
Should be nice hauling a rake if these behind a virgin trains class 87 on the wcml routes
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 5:40 am
by smarty2
Excellent.
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:12 am
by sbowness
Re: New AP air-con Mk2 pack
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:51 am
by 749006
And just to keep you busy
From the AP update Log
The following has been updated to use the Mk2 D/E coaches
Class 101/117/121 Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 33 Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 40 Locomotive Pack
Class 47 Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 31 Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 37/9 (Mirrlees) Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 67 Sound Pack (Pro)
Class 90/Mk3 DVT Pack
AP14: Bristol to Exeter Scenario Pack (Passenger)
AP15: Bristol to Exeter Scenario Pack (Freight)
AP16: Bristol to Exeter Scenario Pack (BR Passenger)
AP20: Portsmouth Direct Scenario Pack (2010-11)
AP22: Class 67 Scenario Pack
AP23: Portsmouth Direct Scenario Pack (Slam-door EMU)
AP24: WCML North Scenario Pack (Variety)
AP25: Scottish East Coast Main Line Scenario Pack (1999-2002)
AP26: Settle to Carlisle Scenario Pack (2004)
AP27: London to Brighton Scenario Pack (1999-2005)
AP31: London to Faversham Scenario Pack (1999-2004)
AP33: London to Brighton Scenario Pack (1987-1992)
AP37: ECML London to Peterborough Scenario Pack (Freight)
AP38: Riviera Line Scenario Pack (BR 1980s)
AP40: GEML Scenario Pack (Passenger 1998-2004)
Peter