vR BR 101 EL

[jstange]

Will the Bpmbdzf from the 120 be updated to support the product or is the only way to get one which supports the 101 to buy the 101 with it?

My question exactly.

I'll definitely buy only one at this time, but really unsure which one it should be, which one will provide the best value (will be suitable for the highest number of scenarios).

[jstange]

No the BR120 steurwagen will not change, one of the changes to the BR101 project was a dedicated stuerwagen as previously to ensure that they are as fully featured as the loks. If the original option had been pursued this would not have been possible. To give full features each stuerwagen needs to be tailored to each unique EL lok.

OK, thanks! Bad news though... I'd buy the IC version, but having the 120 already I feel like buying a similar thing partially again and the other packages will bring me more value...

[MaikG]

The Bpmbdzf from the 120EL package can't be updated. Totally different blueprint sets. Will never work with BR101 in TS. That's the reason because we put them again into the package for the 101. Also was equipped with the new EBuLa thing and SSTF door interlocking system. So if you want to drive a working train with the DVT and a 101EL you need that package. There is only a maybe-working intercompatibility from the 101 to the 120 if the 120 is behind the 101. But not more, and you should not jump into that 120 or you get lost within the TS problems.

[jstange]

As I want to also use the 101 in existing scenarios (just replacing the Kuju/DTG 101) I think the Metropolitan version is out of the question. Therefore it's down to ICE vs IC. Could someone please sum up what are the differences and in what scenarios/on what routes could I use these to help me make the decision?

Think this could help others to decide as well.

Thank you very much!

[MaikG]

It's simple. IC version on all german routes and runs 200kph. It's a common trainset seen everywhere in Germany. The MET ICE (a common name for that special trainset), so the 'ex Metropolitan' version, fits good on the Berlin-Leipzig route and runs 220kph. There are only four 101 that are able to haul that consist. And there are only two complete consist of that type 116.x. So for a replace on the old Kuju 101 you better go for the IC version.

[adam3544]

I've purchased the vR DB BR101 Bpmbdzf IC EL.
At the default POV the airbrake gauges are not visible, therefore I've changed to 85 which covers the most of the driver's desk.
There is no need for Automatic Startup as before. You need to activate all controls using the well known set of key sequences.
The loco is beautifully implemented, all guages moving smoothly as can be. Sounds and voice annunciations are very good, although Sifa warning sound is rather "anemic". I'd prefere the strong,astertive male voice as I recall from the YouTube cabrides.
At the moment I don't know how to operate or activate the eBula electronic service timetable.
The loco coming without any scenario, therefore it is available only in Quick Drive.

Thank you Maik for another great product which with other Virtual Railroads releases became as the class and reference for all developers.

Adam

[MaikG]

The POV is a thing that can't be perfekct in a Game on different display sizes and resulutions. The POV i set is near a real one but a bit wider to have the two displays in your vew. All mesured on a regular 1920px FHD resolution. I personally hate that extremely wide POV. The reason is that you then cant see the line and signals clearly and early. The wider POV gives you a better speed feeling, yes, but thats a expert line and that should be more prototypical. With the wider POV there are coming up some TS problems with the cab sway too. On a normal run you don't need the two gauges ono the right.

About the announcements. In videos they always sound different, dependend on the recording position and equipment. The sounds i used are the original ones, then made some room and grain on them. It is not perfect, but near by the real ones in the loco, not in videos.

[tnleeuw01]

As I want to also use the 101 in existing scenarios (just replacing the Kuju/DTG 101) I think the Metropolitan version is out of the question. Therefore it's down to ICE vs IC. Could someone please sum up what are the differences and in what scenarios/on what routes could I use these to help me make the decision?

Think this could help others to decide as well.

Thank you very much!

As I also want to be able to replace the old Kuju/DTG 101 with this new one, that confirms my bias towards the IC version!

Cheers,

--Tim

[tnleeuw01]

It's simple. IC version on all german routes and runs 200kph. It's a common trainset seen everywhere in Germany. The MET ICE (a common name for that special trainset), so the 'ex Metropolitan' version, fits good on the Berlin-Leipzig route and runs 220kph. There are only four 101 that are able to haul that consist. And there are only two complete consist of that type 116.x. So for a replace on the old Kuju 101 you better go for the IC version.

Thanks for the information!

--Tim

[jpilborough]

As I want to also use the 101 in existing scenarios (just replacing the Kuju/DTG 101) I think the Metropolitan version is out of the question. Therefore it's down to ICE vs IC. Could someone please sum up what are the differences and in what scenarios/on what routes could I use these to help me make the decision?

To explain, the coaches in the "ICE" version, are a refurbished version of the Metropolitan version and this is how the sets are today. Only 2 MET/ICE-MET sets were ever built, whereas DB has around 140 BR101 hauling IC and EC services, so for range of use the answer is very clearly the IC version.

Personally, I have only laid eyes on a ICE-MET set once, and on that occasion it was hauled by a BR120

[jstange]

Could I ask the moderators to rename the title of this thread to "vR BR 101 EL" ?

Thank you!

[jstange]

It's simple. IC version on all german routes and runs 200kph. It's a common trainset seen everywhere in Germany. The MET ICE (a common name for that special trainset), so the 'ex Metropolitan' version, fits good on the Berlin-Leipzig route and runs 220kph. There are only four 101 that are able to haul that consist. And there are only two complete consist of that type 116.x. So for a replace on the old Kuju 101 you better go for the IC version.

Thank you, Maik. I think that settles it...

[holzroller]

Personally I remember the Metropolitan sets running from Koeln in their original livery, and still see them passing through Augsburg on my visits there in the new, indeed I have pictures of both taken in Koeln and Augsburg with the requisite 101 pulling/pushing as the case may be. So for me all three have value. But for many the IC version will be the main one I would think.

[adam3544]

I my opinion, the sounds of inverter or driving motors (gearboxes) are a little bit too strong therefore overcoming the voice announcements.
This happens when loco accelerating or electrically decreasing speed, the voice announcements are barely heard.
Once again, I would like to know the proper procedure of switching PZB/LZB off when yellow "Ende" lamp comings on.

Adam

[jstange]

Once again, I would like to know the proper procedure of switching PZB/LZB off when yellow "Ende" lamp comings on.

Adam

Once the Ende appears (when LZB ends and you change to PZB) you must confirm it with a PZB Frei (End key).