vR BR 101 EL

MaikG · Post by **MaikG** » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:46 pm

You can turn off the doors reminder with deactivating the ZS (train voltage).

jstange · Post by **jstange** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:00 am

MaikG wrote:You can turn off the doors reminder with deactivating the ZS (train voltage).

Hello Maik, you mean turn off ZDS with shift+9? I could not find any button or key combination to "deactivate train voltage" in the manual...

However if shift+9 is what you're referring to then you lose a double formation capability for freight trains... ?

MaikG · Post by **MaikG** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:26 am

No, not ZDS (Zeitmultiplexe Doppeltraktionssteuerung) but ZS (Zugsammelschiene), and there is no key command for it. On the left, besides the reverser, is a circular switch. That is the ZS switch. Turn it to the left to deactivate the ZS. In the MFA the ZS Aus lamp will lit up. To reactivate the ZS, just put the switch into middle position, then a short throw to the right to switch it on, the ZS lamp wil go off, and the switch snaps back and stays in the middle position.

There are so much things in that loco, mostly not really necessary systems, that are not described anywhere. A maybe really important thing is the startup against a applied brake. Thats possible in that 101 now. Was a problem on earlier EL locos to start on gradient. That is now solved out with the new behaviour. A thing that no really comes up but was very time consuming while developing the loco.

jstange · Post by **jstange** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:31 am

MaikG wrote:No, not ZDS (Zeitmultiplexe Doppeltraktionssteuerung) but ZS (Zugsammelschiene), and there is no key command for it. On the left, besides the reverser, is a circular switch. That is the ZS switch. Turn it to the left to deactivate the ZS. In the MFA the ZS Aus lamp will lit up. To reactivate the ZS, just put the switch into middle position, then a short throw to the right to switch it on, the ZS lamp wil go off, and the switch snaps back and stays in the middle position.

There are so much things in that loco, mostly not really necessary systems, that are not described anywhere. A maybe really important thing is the startup against a applied brake. Thats possible in that 101 now. Was a problem on earlier EL locos to start on gradient. That is now solved out with the new behaviour. A thing that no really comes up but was very time consuming while developing the loco.

Understand. Thanks a lot, will try it out when I get home!

adam3544 · Post by **adam3544** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:56 pm

MaikG wrote:No, not ZDS (Zeitmultiplexe Doppeltraktionssteuerung) but ZS (Zugsammelschiene), and there is no key command for it. On the left, besides the reverser, is a circular switch. That is the ZS switch. Turn it to the left to deactivate the ZS. In the MFA the ZS Aus lamp will lit up. To reactivate the ZS, just put the switch into middle position, then a short throw to the right to switch it on, the ZS lamp wil go off, and the switch snaps back and stays in the middle position.

There are so much things in that loco, mostly not really necessary systems, that are not described anywhere. A maybe really important thing is the startup against a applied brake. Thats possible in that 101 now. Was a problem on earlier EL locos to start on gradient. That is now solved out with the new behaviour. A thing that no really comes up but was very time consuming while developing the loco.

Could you kindly explain in more deep how to execute a startup on gradient with applied brake. Maybe, one day (when you have enough time, you could prepare an instructional video with all those "hidden" nuanses of handling this sofisticated loco.
Thanks.

MaikG · Post by **MaikG** » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:12 pm

Was on the supermarket, but there are no bags with some time available

adam3544 · Post by **adam3544** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:45 am

Maik,
"A maybe really important thing is the startup against a applied brake. Thats possible in that 101 now. Was a problem on earlier EL locos to start on gradient. That is now solved out with the new behaviour. A thing that no really comes up but was very time consuming while developing the loco."
How is this procedure exactly executed.
Why many times, I apply power, but the loco doesn't move at all.

Thanks.

holzroller · Post by **holzroller** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:50 am

In real life the procedure is usually to apply the engine brake to hold the train, release the train brake and then apply power, releasing the engine brake once you felt the power had built up sufficiently to start the train.

LCYCowboy · Post by **LCYCowboy** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:11 am

Hi Maik,

What a fantastic train you have built! My new favourite (the E103 will get jealous

)

I have a quick question about the AFB. It seems to work differently from other AFBs (probably because you have designed it correctly

)

An example: I am cruising along at 120kmh using AFB with a TE of 180KN selected. I then reduce the AFB setting to 90kmh. The power displayed on the Zugkraftanzeiger goes to 0, but no braking takes place until I select less than 50KN TE. As soon as I go below 50KN, the train then starts braking down to the selected VSoll.

2nd Example: I am cruising along at a VSoll of 80kmh with a TE of 180KN selected, and I then increase the VSoll up to 160kmh, nothing happens until I move the Power lever below 50KN. It then starts accelerating and I have to move the TE back to 180KN.

Is this how real systems work?

Thanks

Neil

MaikG · Post by **MaikG** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 9:42 am

On gradients you cant hold the train with the engine brake. So set the train brake to about 4.7 or 4.5, set the regulator to about 100kn and wait until the power is groing up and the train starts to move, then release teh train brake. Do not run raster that 10kph with the applied train brake and do not have it applied more that 4.5 for such a start.

adam3544 · Post by **adam3544** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:18 am

MaikG wrote:On gradients you cant hold the train with the engine brake. So set the train brake to about 4.7 or 4.5, set the regulator to about 100kn and wait until the power is groing up and the train starts to move, then release teh train brake. Do not run raster that 10kph with the applied train brake and do not have it applied more that 4.5 for such a start.

Thank you very much.
Adam

holzroller · Post by **holzroller** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:31 pm

Scenario with opiton of either ICe version or IC version http://rail-sim.de/forum/wsif/index.php ... -HH/#files

MaikG · Post by **MaikG** » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:00 pm

adam3544 wrote:
MaikG wrote:On gradients you cant hold the train with the engine brake. So set the train brake to about 4.7 or 4.5, set the regulator to about 100kn and wait until the power is groing up and the train starts to move, then release teh train brake. Do not run raster that 10kph with the applied train brake and do not have it applied more that 4.5 for such a start.
Thank you very much.
Adam

I tried it by my self and it is not working if you had a go before. Needs to be fixed if i can find the problem. Sorry. It's not the best EL yet. To much problems. Comes from the all new script. But will be fixed out within some time.

smarty2 · Post by **smarty2** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:39 am

holzroller wrote:Scenario with opiton of either ICe version or IC version http://rail-sim.de/forum/wsif/index.php ... -HH/#files

Installed the IC version and it threw up a missing ICE 101! Checked the readme and it says the IC version?

LCYCowboy · Post by **LCYCowboy** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:04 am

Hi Maik,

Did you see my question about the AFB. It snuck in a few posts back after being a bit delayed by the Mods.

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