DTG Bristol to Cardiff

[theorganist]

The 175 was probably working the ATW Maesteg to Cheltenham service which they occasionally but rarely are seen on according to the internet. I imagine that uses the line through Chepstow not the line through Severn Tunnel.

Peter

[Springer6]

The 175 is looking good but the doors don't look quite right. The pictures give the impression that the doors are set in from the bodyside when in fact they should be flush. It might just be the pictures but if not then it is a very big error that is very obviously wrong.

I'm not sure. The 175s do have a very thick black rubber strip round the door which may be causing the effect in game but I agree, some of those do look like they are not flush.

I have raised the issue on RSC Facebook page and also with a friend who is a tester - he says it is released for testing on Friday so he shall take a close look then and advise them accordingly.

I'm not too familiar with the real life 175, but judging by real life videos, the doors do give the appearance of being slightly set in ( especially at the top ). This may be an illusion caused by the thick black door surrounds. However the DTG model seems to have exaggerated the "set in" appearance a bit, especially in the un-textured model.

[TransportSteve]

Wipers are also incorrect.

Why? There are 2 of them, both touching the windscreen, what more do ya want?????

Cheerz. Transport Steve.

[31160]

If FGW hire in anything it's most probably would be a 150 or at a stretch 142 due to drivers knowledge as far as I know they haven't worked East of Newport

Cheltenham Spa 2013

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Well that's me told

[rosschris10]

Great to see the new Great Western livery on the HST!

I second that it looks really nice

[mrant1981]

I bet the sounds are recycled knowing DTG they proberly would record the actual sounds from class 175

[chrisonline]

I bet the sounds are recycled knowing DTG they proberly would record the actual sounds from class 175

Maybe, maybe not. But why post negative comments like that until you KNOW for a fact what the sounds are like? I don't care "what you bet". But I am interested in real facts and useful information.

BTW, you may say proberly, but it's spelled "probably".

[ashgray]

I do wonder if the class 175 will have recycled sounds, we know DTG are not good at providing actual sounds from the actual train not sure is AP are gonna do a class 175 sound pack

I bet the sounds are recycled knowing DTG they proberly would record the actual sounds from class 175

As Chris alludes above, this sort of pointless, blanket criticism based on pure guesswork is spectacularly unhelpful. Not only that, but I see you posted something pretty similar but equally negative just a few pages ago on this thread. Oh well, one more member added to my "ignore" list....

Ash

[theorganist]

I bet the sounds are recycled knowing DTG they proberly would record the actual sounds from class 175

Your post states the sounds will be recycled by knowing DTG they will probably record then from a class 175?! So if they record them from a class 175, how are they recycled?

Peter

[rkk01]

I really don't know why folks get so upset about speculation - surely that's what an Internet forum is for
Would be very dull if we limited posts to factual content only!

Agreed, some of the less constructive speculation can be unhelpful, but hey, we're all prone to it at times...

Re the 175 - no reason to recycle sounds, unlike the 58

And the Cheltenham service - presumably the regular ATW service via Chepstow. Nothing to do with some concocted idea of hiring to FGW...!

[jimmyshand]

I really don't know why folks get so upset about speculation - surely that's what an Internet forum is for
Would be very dull if we limited posts to factual content only!

Agreed, some of the less constructive speculation can be unhelpful, but hey, we're all prone to it at times...

Re the 175 - no reason to recycle sounds, unlike the 58

And the Cheltenham service - presumably the regular ATW service via Chepstow. Nothing to do with some concocted idea of hiring to FGW...!

Well said that man!

Negative perceptions of the likely sounds to accompany a DTG release are not based on thin air and presumption but on past experience time and time and time again. If you dipped your toe in the water 100 times and each time a shark bit a piece off, what would you expect on the 101st occasion you dip your toe in the water?

Discussions around this serve to raise awareness that the customer-base is not satisfied and it will drive continuous improvement. Negative feedback or expectation actually helps drive a positive outcome...
If we all accepted mediocrity without the ability to challenge or demand better then all we'd ever be served is mediocrity. The advancements we enjoy in the sim today are as a direct result of customers 'moaning' or demanding better.

[pjt1974]

I think Dovetail have been addressing the sounds issue. They have been commended over the past 6 months or so on many of the sounds.

Unfortunately, a negative stays in the memory longer than a positive does.

[Springer6]

I really don't know why folks get so upset about speculation - surely that's what an Internet forum is for
Would be very dull if we limited posts to factual content only!

Agreed, some of the less constructive speculation can be unhelpful, but hey, we're all prone to it at times...

Re the 175 - no reason to recycle sounds, unlike the 58

And the Cheltenham service - presumably the regular ATW service via Chepstow. Nothing to do with some concocted idea of hiring to FGW...!

I agree with the above.

Speculative comments are, in the main part, not meant to be rude. They are merely speculative.

I think we should be kinder to each other and that should include not being critical of other's spelling ( or perhaps typos ? ).

Life's too short !

Meanwhile, I'm putting on my Kevlar helmet in anticipation of a torrent of abuse .

springer

[tubemad]

I bet the sounds are recycled knowing DTG they proberly would record the actual sounds from class 175

Your post states the sounds will be recycled by knowing DTG they will probably record then from a class 175?! So if they record them from a class 175, how are they recycled?

Peter

I was starting to think it was me that was reading it wrong! It didn't seem to make sense, as you say how can you claim they will probably recycle sounds and go out and record the sounds

Either case I'm sure even a Class 180 sound would do, to the trained ear they might be different, to me they sound the same anyway

[jimmyshand]

DTG sound department are so poor that there is actually a whole different company that exists primarily to make locomotives and rolling stock sound like they should.
DTG always fail to recognise that it's not just about engine noise either... Thousands of tons of metal moving on steel rails creates a deafening cocktail of running sounds, rail joints etc. Much of the DTG fleet have running sounds more akin to butterflies than a rolling iron horse! The old Kuju rail joint sound is like popcorn going off randomly in a microwave rather than the iconic, rhythmic and instantly recognisable 'clickety clack' we all know so well.