Black Forest Route announced

[749006]

Not sure where you get 50km?

It's because it says "48km route from Freiburg to Hausach" on the Steam store.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/376936

Strange how you found the Steam store page and missed the link to the manual on the right side.

[k3v1n989a813]

Not sure where you get 50km?

It's because it says "48km route from Freiburg to Hausach" on the Steam store.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/376936

Strange how you found the Steam store page and missed the link to the manual on the right side.

I didn't even know the manual was there. I usually just check the manuals located in the RailWorks folder.

What I don't get is why only 48km and a branch line was advertised to the public?

[pjt1974]

Not sure where you get 50km?

It's because it says "48km route from Freiburg to Hausach" on the Steam store.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/376936

Strange how you found the Steam store page and missed the link to the manual on the right side.

To be perfectly honest, the manual is easily missed and forgotten on Steam because many items on the Steam store, not just TS2016 items, don't have a manual. I can't remember the last time I viewed a manual through Steam so to try and pin that against someone is wrong time, wrong target me thinks.

[smarty2]

Thanks for posting that video, made my mind up a third the way in!

[tnleeuw01]

Thanks for posting that video, made my mind up a third the way in!

So that's 10 minutes into a 30 minute video, more or less. And the first 8 minutes of that are just menus and loading screens!

So about 2 - 3 minutes into the actual driving on that route, I guess?

--Tim

[smarty2]

Thanks for posting that video, made my mind up a third the way in!

So that's 10 minutes into a 30 minute video, more or less. And the first 8 minutes of that are just menus and loading screens!

So about 2 - 3 minutes into the actual driving on that route, I guess?

--Tim

Math was never my strong point, alright then, I had seen enough to convince me it was kak. Imo....

[tnleeuw01]

Looking at the first part of the trip on that video, apart from the tramway, I would have been quite happy with this.

If this would have been released in 2006 or 2007.

But right now, my standards are mostly a lot higher, and to make me Ok with the kind of graphics fidelity in this route, you'd have to bring along something else that is special, like unique atmosphere, or signalling systems - like the Dutch Berkendam route.

What I've seen, the parts that are actually 'done' instead of bare land with just tracks, are not completely bad. But I have enough of things which are better quality, that it wouldn't really add anything for me to get this route.

--Tim

[michaelhendle]

Hi Tim

The reason I like this type of route, it's dead simple no faffing about trying to start locomotives from cold no PZB and what not to worry about,the scenery in front of the train is all I worry about,not stuff well away from the track,also some of us oldies have memory problems,so find all these advance models totally beyond our capabilities,my problem was due to a stroke,

I'm dreading the new simulator that will will replace TS 2016,probably I will have to go back to MSTS \ Open Rails,when it comes out

Mike

[tnleeuw01]

Hi Mike,

I understand, and I don't often like PZB either so I gladly turn it off most of the time

Still even in trackside detail, a route like the Mosel Valley route is more enjoyable than this one, in my opinion. But you are enjoying the route, so I don't want to take that away or diminish that, it is just that for me the decision is different!

And regarding the next simulator version, the Unreal one, well, it will appear alongside good old RailSim 2016 (or 2017, or whatever is the current version of our known RailSim when the Unreal version is ready and released!!!).

So it will not take away the simulator we have now!

And I do hope it will also still feature some simple driving modes for those who do not wish to drive their train in an expert mode every time

Cheers,

--Tim

[holzroller]

Take a look at the screenshots here https://www.facebook.com/RLB-Team-172863982915954/ for the other Black Forest route in production and you can see why I will wait, cheap though the steam version is. PZB doesn't have to be an issue as you can run with it switched off, and if you look at freeware routes like Hagen Siegen V3, Project Freiburg, or Rodachtal Bahn to name but three you can only wonder at a payware release so poor. From what I read there are also signalling issues with the steam route that will cause big problems for scenario creators.
I wouldn't assume that the UE version will be more complex, there is a theory going around that it will be kept much more simple for the gaming majority rather complex for the niche group of real enthusiasts. Time will tell, but ultimately DTG is there to sell as much product as possible to make money. Personally I think they have left it too long as many people now have very substantial collections, but we will see when it eventually comes along.

[driverden]

I thought I would give this route a try at £10. I've done a quick drive between Freiburg and Hausach some 88 miles and 3 hours driving using a V200. I enjoyed it, a nice variety of scenery and driving opportunities. I periodically checked with Trainmaps Live and it appears to be accurate with lots of scenery items on the route confirmed on the map display. I particularly liked the non-electrified section between Neustadt and Donaueschingen. All the tunnels on the route are named and I've learned the German for tunnel is er.. tunnel. All in all I would say well worth a tenner.

[michaelhendle]

Hi

Well I've had a look at the RLB Team screenshot's and you've convinced me to get it when they release it,yes it's far better than the steam one,still I got it at the cheap rate of £7.39.when it first came out.

My favorite German routes which I have downloaded from rail sim.de, are KBS 250 Berlin-Leipzig,Rodachtalbahn plus,Betriezugtand both versions 2014 and 2005,and the Payware Mossel Valley(which I got from Aerosoft), as I have been to Colmar quite a few times.

All these routes are really better than Cologne-Koblenz,and Munchen Garmisch,I have been to both these areas and the DTG versions look nothing like the real thing.

Mike

[holzroller]

There was a hint it would be around August/September but I've no idea if that is fact or fiction. Think you've mixed your routes up a little there Mike, but I know the ones you mean.

[davep]

I had a look at the video last night. Doesn't look too bad I suppose - tramway excepted,
but what really put me off was basic signalling errors.
Watch the video, when the train approaches the first tunnel, you can see the countdown
markers, on both sides of the line, for the upcoming distant signals.
/// - // - / - no signal, on the trains side, although there is on the other side.
Things like that, rather than lack of long distance scenery, puts me off buying this route.

[JustRight]

I'm dreading the new simulator that will will replace TS 2016,probably I will have to go back to MSTS \ Open Rails,when it comes out
Mike

Mike, I would not be too concerned about this. Our existing TS2016 installations will continue to function just as they do now. The new version will be completely separate.
I for one, and no doubt many others like yourself, have spent a fortune on "Railworks" over the years and will probably not be crossing over to the new platform.

Cheers,
Trevor