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Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 12:57 pm
by GWRKINGCLASS
Just dissapointed its a modern era route,now if it were 1950's to 60' i would be getting itl
Wonderfull !!!! Well done JT
I too would have loved 1960's and Windsor
so It will give me something to do next winter (a) roll back version (b) one or two branch lines.
Cheers JT
(trying to add Waterloo to PL)
I don't think I will live long enough to backdate this route judging by the pace of progress while I am backdating the original Oxford - Paddington route. :lol:
In all seriousness though all I can say is WOW!
Even with the New Reading station (Which I think is giving both rebuilds of New street a run for their money in terms of appearance! :lol: ), this will almost certainly be a day one purchase.
It will also be something to treasure once the final wires go up. :(
Regards,
GWRKINGCLASS.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:29 pm
by ashgray
bigmull wrote:Just dissapointed its a modern era route,now if it were 1950's to 60' i would be getting itl
There are two backdated versions of Paddington - Oxford in the BR Blue era available in the Steam Workshop:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... xt=BR+Blue

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... xt=BR+Blue

Ash

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 1:38 pm
by deltic009
bigmull wrote:Just dissapointed its a modern era route,now if it were 1950's to 60' i would be getting itl
Well, its a discussion that has been done to death, but it is far easier to build a route based on the current day for research/accuracy purposes, and it makes researching train running for scenarios and getting photographs on site so much easier than trying to step back 50 years in time.

That doesn't mean I don't share your sentiment, although I'd personally prefer early 1980s for variety including the HSTs and 56s on the heavy freights to/from Merehead and also for the Llanwern ore traffic on this network.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:03 pm
by pendolinobasher
I am quite looking forward to this route, with the Armstrong Powerhouse HST and Mk3 sound packs being able to drive an HST all the way from Paddington down to somewhere like Cardiff or Bristol is going to be excellent.

It's going to be much better than driving as far as Didcot Parkway and finishing the activity there.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:33 pm
by tnleeuw01
It's a long route, it should have plenty of potential for exploration. I asked earlier about the Windsors branch, because I used to commute on that line between Windsor and Slough... It would have made the line much more attractive to me, for that reason. Pet peeve with the old Paddington - Didcot route from RailSimulator days has always been that they left out these branchlines!
But hey, everyone has their own little thing that they'd be looking forward to, their own little corner of the world that they'd be excited to see replicated, no route builder could possibly accommodate every wish along a route!

Regarding the route's era, well I'm a sucker for all things old and gone, but I'll judge this route on it's merits and interest it'll hold to me when it is released. :)

--Tim

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 2:58 pm
by tubemad
You know it's a shame there isn't a West Coast Railways Mk1 GUV Water Tank coach!

Imagine re-creating the Vintage Trains 1133 Paddington to Bristol non-stop run in 2010 hauled by GWR Castle 5043 :o

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:30 pm
by dingerb
deltic009 wrote:
bigmull wrote:Just dissapointed its a modern era route,now if it were 1950's to 60' i would be getting itl
Well, its a discussion that has been done to death, but it is far easier to build a route based on the current day for research/accuracy purposes, and it makes researching train running for scenarios and getting photographs on site so much easier than trying to step back 50 years in time.

That doesn't mean I don't share your sentiment, although I'd personally prefer early 1980s for variety including the HSTs and 56s on the heavy freights to/from Merehead and also for the Llanwern ore traffic on this network.
yes, a long distance up-to date route offers far more scope. TS 2016 offers playtime in the 50s. not my cup of tea but each to there own.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:29 pm
by deltic009
tubemad wrote:You know it's a shame there isn't a West Coast Railways Mk1 GUV Water Tank coach!

Imagine re-creating the Vintage Trains 1133 Paddington to Bristol non-stop run in 2010 hauled by GWR Castle 5043 :o
That surely wouldn't be difficult, all you need to do is add a config in the Mk1 GUV folder with reskin, and just define it as a tender that can provide water - perhaps 4472 with two tenders provides info on how to use two tenders.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 8:41 am
by theorganist
dingerb wrote:
deltic009 wrote:
bigmull wrote:Just dissapointed its a modern era route,now if it were 1950's to 60' i would be getting itl
Well, its a discussion that has been done to death, but it is far easier to build a route based on the current day for research/accuracy purposes, and it makes researching train running for scenarios and getting photographs on site so much easier than trying to step back 50 years in time.

That doesn't mean I don't share your sentiment, although I'd personally prefer early 1980s for variety including the HSTs and 56s on the heavy freights to/from Merehead and also for the Llanwern ore traffic on this network.
yes, a long distance up-to date route offers far more scope. TS 2016 offers playtime in the 50s. not my cup of tea but each to there own.
Yes but if you add up the length of all the commercial routes for each era, which comes up with by far the most route mileage? I suspect it is the modern period by quite a distance. The Riviera line in the 50's is not actually that long. Just trains have released a lot of steamers but all their routes are modern period.

I enjoy everything from driving a Praire on the Falmouth Branch to racing along the WCML in a Pendolino so I am happy with pretty much every route which is released, however I would prefer a slightly less bias towards modern routes, although I understand why this happens from an ease of research point of view.

I do feel that considering the amount of BR Blue stock which is available and the obvious love for this period on the forums, route wise this period is very much under represented.

Peter

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 12:40 pm
by almark
Not neccaserily ease of research,that can be done in time with most routes,but more a fact that all the assets in JT's current library are modern era and would require considerable investment to create an older set (1960s for instance) of assets,which whilst not impossible,isn't likely. The Riviera in the 50's is great,but if you look closely you can see where corners have been cut in that a number of items can be seen which didn't exist in the 50's,and for me,that ruins the feel.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:46 pm
by 749006
My only comments so far - is the track used with the ballast in the 4 foot being quite noticeable.
The real Reading station has neat ballast along with most of the current GW Main Line
https://www.rcts.org.uk/cache/photograp ... e.1200.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7314/1619 ... 6356_b.jpg

And the time window the route is set in meant the new Reading Station has OH stanchions - even though it's not electrified.
http://peter749.piwigo.com/picture?/249 ... o_december

Peter

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:34 pm
by photons66
Looks great but I have some questions:

a) Which Reading are we getting; the original or the recently refurbished one?

b) Is the Heathrow spur included?

c) How extensive is the OHLE included; as far as Airport Junction or as it is now in preparation for IEP?

d) Is Southcote Junction included?

That's your starters for 10.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:52 pm
by chrisreb
photons66 wrote:Looks great but I have some questions:

a) Which Reading are we getting; the original or the recently refurbished one?

b) Is the Heathrow spur included?

c) How extensive is the OHLE included; as far as Airport Junction or as it is now in preparation for IEP?

d) Is Southcote Junction included?

That's your starters for 10.
Can answer a bit

a) fully re modelled with flyover
b)if you mean a line to Heathrow then no
c)as far as airport junction - I guess trying to keep up to date on it would mean the route is not released for another year or 2 to keep up with reality :D

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:20 pm
by twirlycactus
Well West Drayton station looks intact in the screenshots, but in real life it is a complete building site! So I'm assuming it's set early to mid 2014.

By Heathrow spur, I'm assuming that you mean the flyover. Which wasn't included in the original Kuju route. Hopefully a half finished Stockley flyover is included, as well as an accurate model of Paddington with platforms 13-16 included.

Re: Western Main Lines from Just Trains

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:24 pm
by photons66
Thanks Chris, and yes I meant the flyover which Keith Ross did include in an update but I can't remember the file name.

Southcote Junction refers to the Basingstoke line just beyond Reading West station.