Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:16 am
You must have lumpy clothes then Len!?lenfish wrote:Sounds like our washing machine on a spin cycle.
Regards,
Len
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Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:46 am
Hmm, this looks good, but I wonder why there hasn't been much updates on it...... Would you think it would be released with more than one livery?
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:00 pm
After doing a bit of digging, I've found that Richard Fletcher has kindly already provided an IOA reskin of the MJA, so we can put 2000+ tonnes behind this beast to give it a proper work-out!
I counted 21 wagons here (turn your speakers up too):
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On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
I counted 21 wagons here (turn your speakers up too):
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On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2016 1:39 pm
Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.ttjph wrote:On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
Although in a training scenario for the Class 87 that comes with WCML over Shap it says accelerate your train (of 4 wheel tanks) up to 80mph
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:49 pm
I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!749006 wrote:Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.ttjph wrote:On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:43 pm
Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.ttjph wrote:I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!749006 wrote:Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.ttjph wrote:On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 3:08 pm
The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.ttjph wrote:I know that... my point is that with 3800 hp there might actually be a risk of hauling 2000 tonnes too fast!749006 wrote:Does not matter what pulls it just how fast the wagons can go.ttjph wrote:On a related note, does anyone know how fast you're allowed to haul loaded IOAs with a 3800 hp, 100 mph loco? MJAs appear to be 60 mph, but not clear whether that includes loaded.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2016 9:31 pm
Just a side note. The training scenario you mention was created by me for Matt Peddlesden's Trainsimlive Stream for the sole purpose to help explain the run down procedure for the Class 87 on Neutral Sections. It was not an official DTG or Keith Ross scenario and was not meant to be prototypical. The TTA's were just there for the purpose of the Class 87 pulling something.749006 wrote: Although in a training scenario for the Class 87 that comes with WCML over Shap it says accelerate your train (of 4 wheel tanks) up to 80mph
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Just thought I'd mention it so there's no confusion.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:01 pm
749006 wrote:Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.
Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?deltic009 wrote:The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:24 pm
(Also, due to being series-wound, 87s don't produce constant power in the top notch:deltic009 wrote:How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP??
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1673958)
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 1:38 pm
From bit's of information I think the maximum speed is either 50 or 60 mph - none of the pictures indicate a maximum speed.ttjph wrote:749006 wrote:Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?deltic009 wrote:The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.
http://www.ltsv.com/w_profile_059.php
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:06 pm
ttjph wrote:749006 wrote:Only in the same way as going too fast with any other train - the driver drives to the speed limits - simples.Yes, that's my point, that here we have a loco where you will need some care and skill to keep to the appropriate limits - but is anyone actually going to answer my question about what the limit is for loaded IOAs... ?deltic009 wrote:The point of a variable throttle control is to avoid that. How do you think drivers coped with 1000 tonne intermodal trains and a pair of Class 87s pushing out a constant 10,000HP?? Thats where the skill of the driver comes in.
60mph.
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2016 7:31 pm
Mountsorrel usually runs with 16 to 21 wagons. More often than not it's 18 (certainly was today).
60mph there empty and 60mph back loaded.
Should be a half decent runner from Lichfield to Stafford on Thomson/Keith's WCML Trent Valley!
60mph there empty and 60mph back loaded.
Should be a half decent runner from Lichfield to Stafford on Thomson/Keith's WCML Trent Valley!
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:58 pm
Well, helloooooooooo nurse!!
Re: DTG Class 68
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 1:01 pm
To me that looks like one ugly loco. 