North East Corridor route taken down by DTG

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Trev
One fault with the NEC is that in a certain place on the route ( cannot remember the location) your computer would freeze for about 30 seconds and then you could continue. Other people had this fault. Don't think it was ever fixed.
It was never fixed but much minimized when TS2016 was installed on a SSD. it was worse going north from Philly than it was coming south to Philly.
It was situated at a huge bend in the line which has a 50mph speed limit and (I think that) it was called Shores Corner or similar.
As I wrote previously:
The worst one I see (tile boundary stutter) is in the NEC about 12 - 15 minutes out of Philadelphia (going North) at a 50 mph speed limit on the approach to Shores Corner.
I liked the route and thankfully its still installed on my PC.

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Hi I've just bought the all over blue class 117 from market place in case they pull it from market place,unfortunately I haven't got the Jubilee pack,although I notice there is a Jubilee included in Settle Carlisle special down-load,I wonder if they have a another Jubilee in the pipeline,I expect the reason for pulling the King is because the Exeter - Kingswear King is better
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The downsides of Steam and not having physical copies of the software... It's a worry, will they withdraw more dlc's as they age??? a lot of freeware routes depend on some of the payware stuff and as for the withdrawn loco's and stock there's a lot worse on there than the buffered HST & 117, may have to seriously consider where I purchase my add ons in the future :roll:
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The Rail Simulator website has an article for the upcoming (IRL proposed) North Somerset Line (http://train-simulator.com/introducing- ... t-railway/), which will come with a Class 117 in chocolate & cream livery.

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Erm, the Class 156 has been taken down?!? As in, the original Oovee Class 156?

This is a major blow for me and the Suburban Glasgow route as the Scotrail reskins for it are used pretty extensively on the non-EMU sections of the route. There's actually no alternative out there to use (for the modern day at least) on the West Highland Line and East Kilbride/Barrhead parts of the route - so unless I continue to make scenarios using discontinued DLC I'll either need to use something else or not provide scenarios at all for these! Oh dear... :(

I'm not sure the reasoning behind this as I actually thought it was ok.
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40058 wrote:The downsides of Steam and not having physical copies of the software...
You don't particularly need one as what you buy is linked to your Steam account. Once bought it's always accessible if you need to reinstall. If you want a physical copy make your own---a simple back up is all that's needed.
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This is the problem with train simming,relying on down load content,for model making,it goes right back to MSTS days,some one has a hissy fit over some thing and before you know they pull their items,and everyone is affected both model makers route makers and end users,now for some unknown reason DTG have done the same,lots of us use the 156 and it;s reskins,the 117 isn't so bad as it really was a London Area unit,the 118 was the unit used by Western Region outside of London.

The one I will miss is the Jubilee as I kept putting off getting it,and now I can't,and unfortunately there is no replacement for it,the nearest available will be the SSS Royal Scot and the Just Trains Patriot.

It's a pity DTG couldn't have given us a warning that they were going to pull these Item's at least it would have given people a chance of getting items they needed,and put it on here as well not all of us use Facebook.

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Someone should buy the 156 from Oovee, do it up and re-release it

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Not even sure if Oovee still have the base model for the 156. Can't remember if it was one of the things they lost on the HDD failure they had. But the loss of the 156 leaves a rather large hole in stock for anyone new coming to the game that likes Scottish and Northern runs.
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I know it's been said before, but DTG really should consider to put items, they no longer want to publish or re-release, out there for free, or at least sell them at a low price (like the kuju legacy stuff).

If you must, tell the buyers those DLCs are no longer supported, but if you need them for scenarios or routes, here they are. I mean, it's not like they are making any more money by withdrawing them.
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peterfhayes wrote:Trev
One fault with the NEC is that in a certain place on the route ( cannot remember the location) your computer would freeze for about 30 seconds and then you could continue. Other people had this fault. Don't think it was ever fixed.
It was never fixed but much minimized when TS2016 was installed on a SSD. it was worse going north from Philly than it was coming south to Philly.
It was situated at a huge bend in the line which has a 50mph speed limit and (I think that) it was called Shores Corner or similar.
As I wrote previously:
The worst one I see (tile boundary stutter) is in the NEC about 12 - 15 minutes out of Philadelphia (going North) at a 50 mph speed limit on the approach to Shores Corner.
I liked the route and thankfully its still installed on my PC.

pH
I believe the location that constantly crashed the game was Frankford Junction, which actually was the site of a real world train crash involving the ACS-64 (The engine included with New York-New Haven). It crashed only when running quick drive north from North Philly, I had no problems when running NB from 30th Street.
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groundhog wrote:I know it's been said before, but DTG really should consider to put items, they no longer want to publish or re-release, out there for free, or at least sell them at a low price (like the kuju legacy stuff).

If you must, tell the buyers those DLCs are no longer supported, but if you need them for scenarios or routes, here they are. I mean, it's not like they are making any more money by withdrawing them.
This. Acts like these really mess up the community seeking to build and share stuff - you'd get the impression that DTG doesn't really want this. Suppose I where building a route that requires NEC assets?

If it's a quality issue, hat-tip to you DTG for recognising this - but you could offer it as a 'legacy' (i.e. completely unsupported) and still make say 4,- per copy. If it's licensing issues, remove the offending logos for the time being. Get one of your CG guys to come up with a fancy colour scheme and presto.
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gptech wrote:
40058 wrote:The downsides of Steam and not having physical copies of the software...
You don't particularly need one as what you buy is linked to your Steam account. Once bought it's always accessible if you need to reinstall. If you want a physical copy make your own---a simple back up is all that's needed.
Did test my buffered HST and have done a back of my original install so I guess I'm lucky ;) btw gptech thanks for your help on the Mayflower Branch topic :)
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tluamiani1 wrote:Erm, the Class 156 has been taken down?!? As in, the original Oovee Class 156?

This is a major blow for me and the Suburban Glasgow route as the Scotrail reskins for it are used pretty extensively on the non-EMU sections of the route. There's actually no alternative out there to use (for the modern day at least) on the West Highland Line and East Kilbride/Barrhead parts of the route - so unless I continue to make scenarios using discontinued DLC I'll either need to use something else or not provide scenarios at all for these! Oh dear... :(

I'm not sure the reasoning behind this as I actually thought it was ok.
I remember recently that the DLC broke with the advent of TS2016, AP together with someone from DTG's created a fix to get it working. A quote from a DTG's spokesperson said that they hoped to release an update in the near future. AP have already released it into the 153/150/156DMU soundpack, but it now looks like DTG's have been unable to bring the fix mainstream. I wonder what the future holds now...

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DaveDewhurst wrote:Someone should buy the 156 from Oovee, do it up and re-release it

Dave

Is that a huge clue?
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