Mürzzuschlag to Gloggnitz - In development by DTG

[TransportSteve]

Even on the WCML which is a wonderful route is made much better by all the stations being modeled by RSC/DTG.

But, it was made by Keith Ross, not, DTG, however, we understand what you mean.

I'm looking forward to this route, I think sending DTG Adam across to Austria was the right idea and with his 4/5 years experience with DTG knows exactly what they are looking for, you can't rely on Google Street View for up to date pictures of bridges, roads, etc, you need a man on the ground to see what the current structures are like and take the appropriate photographs, especially at Railway Stations, which are difficult to access, I'm sure it'll be created as well as the German offerings they've done in the last couple of years.

Cheerz. Transport Steve.

[holzroller]

I certainly hope it is better than the German routes, because whilst they may be acceptable for people outside of Germany and Austria, they are not well recieved by the people in those countries, a very large potential customer base. Issues with signalling, a bridge that has the disused side and the running side swapped over, a fictional S-bahn station and a host of other issues picked up on by the people most familiar with the routes concerned. The sad thing is that there is a lot of expertise available if only they would ask, and more importantly listen.

[tycoonkid9]

Advance preview:

I'm suspecting that Taurus seen is a revamped version of the DTG MRCE ES64U2, wonder how that will compare to the HRQ Taurus and JT RWA Taurus.

[JackRyan]

Advance preview:

I'm suspecting that Taurus seen is a revamped version of the DTG MRCE ES64U2, wonder how that will compare to the HRQ Taurus and JT RWA Taurus.

If I'm not mistaken, the DTG taurus is a simplified version of the HRQ Taurus, so it will behave like every DTG locomotive, easy to drive and less realistical.

[deltic009]

Advance preview:

I'm suspecting that Taurus seen is a revamped version of the DTG MRCE ES64U2, wonder how that will compare to the HRQ Taurus and JT RWA Taurus.

If I'm not mistaken, the DTG taurus is a simplified version of the HRQ Taurus, so it will behave like every DTG locomotive, easy to drive and less realistical.

Which will suit more people than it annoys I'd imagine.

[smarty2]

That's right Matt, it will suit knuckleheads like me just fine.

[holzroller]

Our peers across the water are saying that the tunnel portals in the twitch pic are too high. Double deck stock is banned on this route because of the size of the tunnels. Probably governed by in game catenary height though.

[smarty2]

Well that would have escaped me Holz, still buy it though.

[749006]

Our peers across the water are saying that the tunnel portals in the twitch pic are too high. Double deck stock is banned on this route because of the size of the tunnels. Probably governed by in game catenary height though.

That's the problem with european routes where the people in the countries the routes are set in will notice error or discrepancies in routes that we might not notice.
And the same when a UK route comes out and we spot things the German/Austrian/French/Spanish communities might not realise is slightly wrong.

I wonder if "our peers" across the water made similar comments about the version from RWA regarding tunnel hight ?

Peter

[michaelhendle]

Hi Marty
well that's 2 of us who like the more easy to drive DTG locomotives,I find the advanced VR loco's to difficult now,even trying to follow the manual
I must be getting a Luddite in my old age

Mike

[749006]

Although the VR locos take time to learn their little quirks I prefer some of the Advanced features on the VR & HRQ locos.

The HRQ Taurus is a lovely machine, one you have isolated the PZB & Sifa.
The LZB works very well on the sections which has it fitted and it will be a nice loco to run on the this Semmering Route.

Peter

[smarty2]

Hi Marty
well that's 2 of us who like the more easy to drive DTG locomotives,I find the advanced VR loco's to difficult now,even trying to follow the manual
I must be getting a Luddite in my old age

Mike

Aah well there you go Mike, however despite my liking things easy I am really happy with CTRL+Z on the Vr loks.

[Aclet]

Great news about the twitch stream. I will be back from work by then so will make sure I tune in.

I think you are right about local knowledge it is always best to have it or have access to it, however if DTG/RSC did not make routes in the US and Germany then our offerings would be all UK focused.
Great for us in the UK, (we might even have had a route around the midlands!) but I can imagine that would set the train forums on fire and more venom aimed at the company if that is a stance they took.

Personally I'd like to see them move into Holland/France/Australia or maybe South America even if they do make mistakes to begin with.
I want to drive the FCCA in Peru and while they may not get all the details right I'm pretty sure they would capture the feel of what it is like to drive such dangerous railways.

This is what I feel the software is begging for, but maybe there is not a big enough market for it.
So this route over Semmering I hope will be lovely and I will be adding it to my Christmas list, certainly the closest we will have other than visiting the real route ourselves.

[holzroller]

TBH the German routes have set German forums on fire anyway and tbh a little local knowledge this would probably have been avoided. No idea if the tunnels were critisized on the freeware route. I didn't read through the whole thread. As catenary height is a game feature I doubt it, but maybe some hoped for to much from dtg without considering the consequences. It wouldn't be the first time, either there or here that expectations are too high. That said it should be possible to get the signalling and track correct and include the little things that bring atmosphere. Of course you need to understand these things to achieve it. So far dtg seem to struggle with signalling as discussed here and on other forums. The ultimate question is do dtg want to sell in other countries and increase their market worldwide or are they happy to produce for the english speaking world. Makes a big difference to what is required.

[Aclet]

Wow! More routes like this please.