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PS: I believe that the first engines that are allowing you to drive with your head hanging out of the window, so to say, are some of the small Meshtools tank engines (The J50 for sure, others perhaps too but can't say for certain which ones).
Although the cabviews on these one's have some issues with parts of the external model not rendering, such as the driving wheels - a performance optimization applied to cabviews as a rule, which Pete had to work hard to get around!

It's a great and realistic way to drive steamers so I'm glad that Pete's gone that extra mile and added this view!

Cheers,

--Tim

Thanks for the tips, bumping up the fire mass to the figures Plewsy suggested helps in particular fighting the Jacobite route. Shall do more investigating tonight, only had time for a little run. I am getting hang of it better! And Like you Ken, as soon as speed is sufficient 15+, I close the regulator back slightly and wind down the cutoff for higher running speeds 40-50. Then, either open up into 2nd valve or high up in first valve depending on route ahead, as per prototypical driving methods - I believe!

Echoing what others have said about the negative review. He doesn't realise about the reverser lock, or he was coupled with a diesel in the consist not set as dead. Excellent work as usual Pete, love how you have to set up the injector rather than just wind open the tap and valve fully and leave it. I am not looking forward to the complicated injectors on the S160!

I agree about comparing driving styles and interesting to compare. Why I asked for others to upload any videos they had driving steamers on gradients. Be interesting to see how others tackle the climb to Glenfinnin or Beasdale bank.

tnleeuw01 wrote:PS: I believe that the first engines that are allowing you to drive with your head hanging out of the window, so to say, are some of the small Meshtools tank engines (The J50 for sure, others perhaps too but can't say for certain which ones).

Every locomotive I have has a head-out view.

John

There's head out view with shift-2, and on some locos, like the K1 and J50, a head out view which is one of cabview positions.

--Tim

tnleeuw01 wrote:There's head out view with shift-2, and on some locos, like the K1 and J50, a head out view which is one of cabview positions.

Just duplication, then. Hardly something to celebrate as a wonderful new feature! Just more positions to cycle through to get where you want.

Best regards,

John

I beg to differ John; it allows manipulation of the in cab controls in head out view which is a great boon to those without TiR, and even to those of us with, it is a far simpler device to use when reversing and braking during shunting - having a fixed out of cab view is sooooo much easier.

Personally I would prefer this arrangement on all future steamers, with Ctrl-F2 being only useful on legacy engines with the non-existent or limited render of the external 3d model in cab view mode.

Carinthia wrote:

tnleeuw01 wrote:There's head out view with shift-2, and on some locos, like the K1 and J50, a head out view which is one of cabview positions.

Just duplication, then. Hardly something to celebrate as a wonderful new feature! Just more positions to cycle through to get where you want.

Best regards,

John

A very useful feature I would say, especialy when performing coupling, run around or reversing a train into occupied sidings.
I like to drive using the mouse grab controll system, as you would in real life (kind of) and this view option allows me to keep my head out while still being able to move all the loco's controls.
After all you wouldn't be able to drive along the Severn Vally with your key board in real life, even modern day tech can't make an old kettle move.

Having an interesting thing going on now on a run along the WHL... I'm stopped in a station, neither of the taps are open (and I have opened them fully and closed them to ensure this) and yet my tender is losing a gallon every 10 or 20 seconds or so. Is this intentional to represent leaks of some kind, user error somehow, or a bug?

I've had the same but only in non-advanced mode; shift-k or shift-L does not entirely close the water feed, despite both handles appearing to be fully in the off position; however this does not appear to be an issue in advanced mode.

Deano55 wrote:A very useful feature I would say, especialy when performing coupling, run around or reversing a train into occupied sidings.
I like to drive using the mouse grab controll system, as you would in real life (kind of) and this view option allows me to keep my head out while still being able to move all the loco's controls.
After all you wouldn't be able to drive along the Severn Vally with your key board in real life, even modern day tech can't make an old kettle move. :P

OK, I bow to that - although I can't see how you can look back and manage the controls simultaneously.

Your camparisons with real life are intriguing. Real train drivers don't ease up by eye - you have somebody on the ground guiding you. TS has a crude feature to represent this, although nobody has yet produced a grubby animated man who holds both hands up and shouts "whoa!".

John

arabianights wrote:Having an interesting thing going on now on a run along the WHL... I'm stopped in a station, neither of the taps are open (and I have opened them fully and closed them to ensure this) and yet my tender is losing a gallon every 10 or 20 seconds or so. Is this intentional to represent leaks of some kind, user error somehow, or a bug?

Thanks for confirming this. We have found a small bug in Standard mode if you don't use the F4 HUD "water" button to fill the boiler where the water taps sometimes won't close properly. I gave a patch to DTG on Friday fixing this, rebalancing the sounds (more prominent clanking when coasting, more "oomph" to the high speed chuffs and a fix for the wagons clanking when stationary due to a core bug with speed reporting) and adding the 3 scenarios they pulled just before release.

karma99 wrote:

arabianights wrote:Having an interesting thing going on now on a run along the WHL... I'm stopped in a station, neither of the taps are open (and I have opened them fully and closed them to ensure this) and yet my tender is losing a gallon every 10 or 20 seconds or so. Is this intentional to represent leaks of some kind, user error somehow, or a bug?

Thanks for confirming this. We have found a small bug in Standard mode if you don't use the F4 HUD "water" button to fill the boiler where the water taps sometimes won't close properly. I gave a patch to DTG on Friday fixing this, rebalancing the sounds (more prominent clanking when coasting, more "oomph" to the high speed chuffs and a fix for the wagons clanking when stationary due to a core bug with speed reporting) and adding the 3 scenarios they pulled just before release.

Thanks!

Let's hope that the patch will soon get through their testing and pushed out to us!

--Tim

Fenrir wrote:I've had the same but only in non-advanced mode; shift-k or shift-L does not entirely close the water feed, despite both handles appearing to be fully in the off position; however this does not appear to be an issue in advanced mode.

I have observed and reported the same as well, glad it will be fixed soon!

karma99 wrote:

arabianights wrote:Having an interesting thing going on now on a run along the WHL... I'm stopped in a station, neither of the taps are open (and I have opened them fully and closed them to ensure this) and yet my tender is losing a gallon every 10 or 20 seconds or so. Is this intentional to represent leaks of some kind, user error somehow, or a bug?

Thanks for confirming this. We have found a small bug in Standard mode if you don't use the F4 HUD "water" button to fill the boiler where the water taps sometimes won't close properly. I gave a patch to DTG on Friday fixing this, rebalancing the sounds (more prominent clanking when coasting, more "oomph" to the high speed chuffs and a fix for the wagons clanking when stationary due to a core bug with speed reporting) and adding the 3 scenarios they pulled just before release.

I only ever drive in advanced mode although I may well have had the F4 hud up at one point (would definitely have had the F3 hud up) due to fat fingers... if the above bug is only supposed to be possible in standard mode there may be another, or could having the "chunky" hud up also cause those conditions?

I also had saved a couple of times if that matters... in fact now I recall not only had I saved but I actually had loaded from a save file on another day by the time I noticed the leaking.

Just found a post I made in July 2012 about double heading and I suggested to drive with auto fireman on seems to get over the boiler running empty problem. I had forgotten about this.