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jstange wrote:OK, thanks, Holz...

Anyway, this is weird, never heard the sound in any of the real cab ride videos...and it is rather loud in the sim and disturbing...
On page 11 of this thread are some comments from fsclips - Stefan, who helped make the loco & stock.

Might be worth asking him about the sound - I find it a bit irritating at times.

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Could you give some more information on where and how you modified the Railjets files, thanks.

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J1o2h3n4 wrote:Could you give some more information on where and how you modified the Railjets files, thanks.

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jstange wrote:By the way the sound's description in the config files is "Spurkranzschmierung" which means flange lubrication.
I have searched thru the Austria_RailVehicles folder and the only file is in \Austria_RailVehicles\Common\Sounds\OEBB_8090\8090 folder.

The Taurus must refer to that file.

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Hello guys, sorry for the delay, was able to get to the forum only through my mobile phone and tablet during the day and I needed to check my PC to recall the exact filenames and locations.

The "offending" sound file is /Assets/RWAustria_2/Austria_RailVehicles/Common/Sounds/OEBB_Taurus/Cab/1116_SPUS_MR.dav
To decrease its volume you must edit the two following files (actually probably just one of them is OK, but I don't know which one so I updated both):

/Assets/RWAustria_2/Austria_RailVehicles/Common/Sounds/OEBB_Taurus/OEBB_Engine.proxyxml
/Assets/RWAustria_2/Austria_RailVehicles/Common/Sounds/OEBB_Taurus/OEBB_Generic.proxyxml

These files are plain text files, I suggest you use wordpad to edit them, had some troubles when I touched the files using notepad (half of the sounds stopped working, perhaps the notepad added some unexpected CRs or something, don't know)

Within the files search for "1116_SPUS_MR.dav" you should see two sections that control the playback properties of the sound file for the cab and external view. You need to adjust the BaseVolume value. My recommended values are 0.1 for internal (Spurkranzschmierung) and 0.3 for external (Spurkranzschmierung aussen).

Original values:

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<kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3242">
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung</Name>
					<IsLooped d:type="bool">0</IsLooped>
					<Priority d:type="sUInt32">50</Priority>
					<BaseVolume d:type="sFloat32">0.4</BaseVolume>
					<VolumeVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</VolumeVariation>
					<BasePitchShift d:type="sFloat32">1</BasePitchShift>
					<PitchShiftVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</PitchShiftVariation>
					<AttenuationStartDist d:type="sFloat32">10</AttenuationStartDist>
					<NoFutherAttenuationDist d:type="sFloat32">10</NoFutherAttenuationDist>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
					<Sample>
						<kLoud-cSampleID>
							<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RWAustria_2\Austria_RailVehicles\Common\Sounds\OEBB_Taurus\Cab\1116_SPUS_MR.dav</Filename>
						</kLoud-cSampleID>
					</Sample>
				</kLoud-cSingleSampleSound>
				<kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3255">
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung aussen</Name>
					<IsLooped d:type="bool">0</IsLooped>
					<Priority d:type="sUInt32">50</Priority>
				        <BaseVolume d:type="sFloat32">1</BaseVolume>
					<VolumeVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</VolumeVariation>
					<BasePitchShift d:type="sFloat32">1</BasePitchShift>
					<PitchShiftVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</PitchShiftVariation>
					<AttenuationStartDist d:type="sFloat32">10</AttenuationStartDist>
					<NoFutherAttenuationDist d:type="sFloat32">20</NoFutherAttenuationDist>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
					<Sample>
						<kLoud-cSampleID>
							<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RWAustria_2\Austria_RailVehicles\Common\Sounds\OEBB_Taurus\Cab\1116_SPUS_MR.dav</Filename>
						</kLoud-cSampleID>
					</Sample>
				</kLoud-cSingleSampleSound>
My recommended values:

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<kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3242">
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung</Name>
					<IsLooped d:type="bool">0</IsLooped>
					<Priority d:type="sUInt32">50</Priority>
					<BaseVolume d:type="sFloat32">0.1</BaseVolume>
					<VolumeVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</VolumeVariation>
					<BasePitchShift d:type="sFloat32">1</BasePitchShift>
					<PitchShiftVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</PitchShiftVariation>
					<AttenuationStartDist d:type="sFloat32">10</AttenuationStartDist>
					<NoFutherAttenuationDist d:type="sFloat32">10</NoFutherAttenuationDist>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
					<Sample>
						<kLoud-cSampleID>
							<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RWAustria_2\Austria_RailVehicles\Common\Sounds\OEBB_Taurus\Cab\1116_SPUS_MR.dav</Filename>
						</kLoud-cSampleID>
					</Sample>
				</kLoud-cSingleSampleSound>
				<kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3255">
					<Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung aussen</Name>
					<IsLooped d:type="bool">0</IsLooped>
					<Priority d:type="sUInt32">50</Priority>
					<BaseVolume d:type="sFloat32">0.3</BaseVolume>
					<VolumeVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</VolumeVariation>
					<BasePitchShift d:type="sFloat32">1</BasePitchShift>
					<PitchShiftVariation d:type="sFloat32">0</PitchShiftVariation>
					<AttenuationStartDist d:type="sFloat32">10</AttenuationStartDist>
					<NoFutherAttenuationDist d:type="sFloat32">20</NoFutherAttenuationDist>
					<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
					<Sample>
						<kLoud-cSampleID>
							<Filename d:type="cDeltaString">RWAustria_2\Austria_RailVehicles\Common\Sounds\OEBB_Taurus\Cab\1116_SPUS_MR.dav</Filename>
						</kLoud-cSampleID>
					</Sample>
				</kLoud-cSingleSampleSound>

Please back up these files BEFORE you touch them so that you can fix any issues without the need to reinstall the whole Railjet pack.

I am not sure if this impacts the railjet driving trailer sound as well, it certainly does work for 1016/1116. If not, I will try to find how to do the same thing for the trailer.
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Re: RW Austria Railjet Advanced

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Hello again,

driving the 1016 a few mins ago, I've noticed the display on the right side has something like "SPUS aus" on it. The display buttons do not allow you to change it (and aus means off anyway), however this could mean that in real life this "Spurkranzschmierung" can be controlled from within the cab (ein/aus). And this is why one can hear it in some videos and cannot in other.
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Peter and John,

were you able to follow my directions? Is the solution working for you?

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jstange wrote:Peter and John,

were you able to follow my directions? Is the solution working for you?

Jan
Hi Jan,

Not had a chance to try the mod yet - too busy playing with the 205.
I had a problem with a sound file I did not like on the Class 73 so I renamed it so the file did not sound and all was ok.

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Hi Jan,
was out yesterday and have been watching the Olympics all day, sad I know.
You mention problems with notepad, do you happen to know if these files are opened via RWTools, that these same problems exist?

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J1o2h3n4 wrote:Hi Jan,
was out yesterday and have been watching the Olympics all day, sad I know.
You mention problems with notepad, do you happen to know if these files are opened via RWTools, that these same problems exist?

Regards JohnT
Yes, it of course works too...
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J1o2h3n4 wrote:Hi Jan,
was out yesterday and have been watching the Olympics all day, sad I know.
You mention problems with notepad, do you happen to know if these files are opened via RWTools, that these same problems exist?

Regards JohnT
Ah, I never knew RWTools can open xml files too (I see it now). So I presume this is yet another (and probably more secure) way to do it.
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OK Jstange,
did the mods using RWTools and so far no adverse effects.
Just a coup;e of pointers, could find the lines:- <kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3242"> in the engine proxy.xml but not the same in the generic proxy.xml.
So looked for :- <Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung</Name> and <Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung aussen</Name> and below them for the base volume line to edit.
Have to admit,my hearing is obviously deteriorating with age as I don't seem to be able to hear any difference. Can you give details of route and scenario that this sound is most prevalent on. One thing I did notice though in the video vis-a-vis the game. The cab in reality was very quiet where as in the game, there is what seems to me to be the brake lines constantly venting at several minute intervals and non stop when the brakes are applied. For me pointers to eliminating those sounds would be welcome.

Thanks for your efforts.

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J1o2h3n4 wrote:OK Jstange,
did the mods using RWTools and so far no adverse effects.
Just a coup;e of pointers, could find the lines:- <kLoud-cSingleSampleSound d:id="3242"> in the engine proxy.xml but not the same in the generic proxy.xml.
So looked for :- <Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung</Name> and <Name d:type="cDeltaString">Spurkranzschmierung aussen</Name> and below them for the base volume line to edit.
Have to admit,my hearing is obviously deteriorating with age as I don't seem to be able to hear any difference. Can you give details of route and scenario that this sound is most prevalent on. One thing I did notice though in the video vis-a-vis the game. The cab in reality was very quiet where as in the game, there is what seems to me to be the brake lines constantly venting at several minute intervals and non stop when the brakes are applied. For me pointers to eliminating those sounds would be welcome.

Thanks for your efforts.

Regards JohnT
Hi John,

I'll take a look at that, but not sure I heard any other sounds that I would find disturbing.

The sound that I eliminated is a hissing sound that can be heard every approx. 10 seconds when the Tauus is moving having speed over, say, 30 or 40 kph. I don't believe you could not hear that one.

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I suspect that you are actually speaking about the same noise, you are just attributing it to different sources
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