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I bought a Samsung EVO 850 SSD earlier in the year and have no regrets. I moved the whole system onto it and the boot time for the PC is amazing. TS also runs much better with much less stuttering that my old HDD.

A couple of things. The Samsung Magician software is a useful tool which was included. This indicates that to get the maximum performance, you should use SATA 3 connections to the Motherboard. My PC only has SATA 2 so I guess I am running at not quite the optimum level. I'm not sure if the SATA 3 cable would make any/much difference. Also turning AHCI mode on made a difference, this was done on the BIOS screen after installation.

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31466 wrote:I bought a Samsung EVO 850 SSD earlier in the year and have no regrets. I moved the whole system onto it and the boot time for the PC is amazing. TS also runs much better with much less stuttering that my old HDD.
Hi ,
Yes my techie guy's at the local repair shop recommend this SSD, a bit expensive but worth it, thanks for the comments.
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I've not got a SSD, being put off by the number of read/writes before it failed reports.
But reading that the r/w problem is now not a problem, I'm interested in getting a
couple of SSD's, one for Windows (my C drive) and one for TS (my D drive).

Whilst I understand that I can simply (I hope) copy everything on my TS drive over
to a SSD drive, how do I transfer windows etc. off my C drive to a SSD?
Asus Z97-K. Intel Core i7 4790K @ 4 GHz. 3GB NVidia EVGA GTX780Ti. 16GB DDR3 RAM. Sound Blaster Z. Windows 10 64 bit.
2x960GB SSDs, 3x2TB internal HDDs and 2x1TB & 1x2TB external HDDs.
Running TS @ 3840x2160 on a 4k TV.
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peterfhayes wrote:Gary
On my rigs Windows 7 Sp1 on a SSD loads to usable screen in 45 seconds.
Win 7 here also, Windows on an 80GB Seagate drive with all programs on a separate 500GB Seagate drive; both conventional spinning discs.

From pressing the power button to a working Windows desktop-------10 seconds.





OK. I cheated, that's from 'Hybrid Sleep', which I believe is the default 'Off' in Windows 10
Doing the test again with 'Hibernate', from button press to desktop----30 seconds.

Both these give me an environment just as it was when the machine 'went to bed', running programs are still loaded and resume where they left off.

From a 'cold start' it does take considerably longer, from button press to working desktop----1 minute 10 seconds, though this does include a Ctrk+Alt+Del to log on.

Obviously what services/programs you have configured to also run at boot will influence these timings, as 'extras' I'm just loading NOD32 (Anti-virus), CloneDrive (Virtual DVD drive) and BlueSoleil (Bluetooth)
TS 2015 on a separate loads to main menu usually around 30 seconds.
With the Steam client already running, from clicking the 'Play' button to main menu----around 45 seconds
Loading from a scenario to play is around on average 65 seconds - it varies due to what is being loaded.
I chose a nice 'hefty' one; "Carstairs Split" from WCMLN----1 minute 10 seconds.

I feel that SSD's do increase performance (not necessarily) fps but as they load data at least 40 + times faster than a conventional HDD stutters can be lessened during game play.
That one I can't test, but there's no doubt that an SSD does reduce any stuttering due to tile loading by an alarming amount' -- hopefully Pete's data will give us an idea of whether a separate SSD for TS gives a dramatic boost or whether simply having the OS, or even just the game, on an SSD gives the same results.
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davep wrote:I've not got a SSD, being put off by the number of read/writes before it failed reports.
But reading that the r/w problem is now not a problem, I'm interested in getting a
couple of SSD's, one for Windows (my C drive) and one for TS (my D drive).

Whilst I understand that I can simply (I hope) copy everything on my TS drive over
to a SSD drive, how do I transfer windows etc. off my C drive to a SSD?
The lifespan of ssd drives hasn't been a problem for years, take the 840 evo I have, with 100gb written to the drive everyday your still looking at just over 7 years so with normal everyday use you can triple that figure and the 840 pro and 850 evo I also have installed will last even longer than those figures, bar faults occurring of course but any drive can fail, ssd or hdd.

All the so called ssd optimizations you'll find searching the net like moving temp files and page file etc off the drive and onto an hdd is also pointless with the lifespan of ssd drives these days, people should just pop the drive in and use it like they would any other drive.

I threw a 850 evo 500gb info my dell laptop a few months back so the drive is used for everything, extracting archives, large video files etc etc, even with writing 20gb a day the drive would last 93 years lol, even the smallest 850 evo which is the 120gb version would last 23 years with the same amount of writes!

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davep wrote:I've not got a SSD, being put off by the number of read/writes before it failed reports.
But reading that the r/w problem is now not a problem, I'm interested in getting a
couple of SSD's, one for Windows (my C drive) and one for TS (my D drive).

Whilst I understand that I can simply (I hope) copy everything on my TS drive over
to a SSD drive, how do I transfer windows etc. off my C drive to a SSD?
There was cloning software provided with the SSD which copied everything from the HDD to the SSD. This did require the purchase of some adapter cables so I could attach the SSD via a USB. After swapping the drives over everything worked straight away! Obviously this leaves you with the same copy of windows on 2 drives so I formatted the HDD once the SSD had proved itself. Just to say though that when I came to upgrade to Windows 10, the installation failed and I had to re - install Windows from scratch, not a good week! This may have been as a result of cloning the drive, I'm not sure but there were some boot files missing which I couldn't fix. I wouldn't worry about this too much, how often do you upgrade Windows! As a result of this I am still on Windows 8.1 and I am not going to try again but this doesn't bother me.
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