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ChrisBarnes wrote:Hi Chris,

If you have ActivFireman turned on then you don't need to worry about any of the fireman's controls as the AI will take care of all of that. If you want to do all the firing and injectors for yourself then you must turn ActivFireman off.

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So I can ignore the injectors etc?

If so wonder why in double header I ran out of water after climb out of Bath. Anyway thanks for advice and have a great Christmas.
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ChrisBarnes wrote:Hi Chris,

If you have ActivFireman turned on then you don't need to worry about any of the fireman's controls as the AI will take care of all of that. If you want to do all the firing and injectors for yourself then you must turn ActivFireman off.

Kind regards,
Chris
Hi Chris

Did you confirm the problem with the water gauges ?

Anthony
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chrisreb wrote: So I can ignore the injectors etc?

If so wonder why in double header I ran out of water after climb out of Bath. Anyway thanks for advice and have a great Christmas.
With ActivFireman on, you can safely ignore the injectors. As for the running out of water issue, I think that it is probably because of the double header and the bugs and strange characteristics that come with it, sadly.

Thank you, and I hope you have a nice Christmas yourself. :)

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anthonye wrote: Hi Chris

Did you confirm the problem with the water gauges ?

Anthony
Hi Anthony,

It is a flaw in the part of the script that codes for the water gauge behaviour, but I haven't yet had an opportunity to find the exact issue and resolve it unfortunately.

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ChrisBarnes wrote:
anthonye wrote: Hi Chris

Did you confirm the problem with the water gauges ?

Anthony
Hi Anthony,

It is a flaw in the part of the script that codes for the water gauge behaviour, but I haven't yet had an opportunity to find the exact issue and resolve it unfortunately.

Kind regards
Chris
No problem, as I said wrong time of year to faff about with a minor problem. I'm sure you will sort it out in the New Year.

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Isnt the Bardic Lamp a bit dim now?Also it dont half use the water up!
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Hi All,

I've just downloaded the latest update to the 5mt, and it seems to have an issue with it I'm not sure if anybody else has noticed. When prepping the "warm" state version of the locomotive, the lubricator sound gets stuck on and continues to go "crank-crank-crank" very loudly long after I've let go of the key and the lubricator handle has stopped spinning, even when the loco is at rest or I've changed over to another loco.

Is there any way to fix this, or re-download the previous version (which worked just fine for me?

Cheers lads,

Brendan O.
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Hi Brendan,

I've looked into the ratcheting sound and have a hunch on why the issue you describe is happening, and how it can be fixed, but until it is fixed I would suggest avoiding warm mode so that you don't get the annoying ratchet on an insanity inducing loop! I've also traced down the exact issue causing the water gauge problem as described by Anthony, and hopefully it can be fixed promptly. There is also a snifter valve problem which I believe I have now fixed, and an AWS sunflower problem. These are the only issues left that I am aware of.

It will all be sorted out for another update that hopefully won't take as long to release, fingers crossed. I apologise that further issues crept in with the update before Xmas; it was disappointing to read about there being further problems after all the work that everyone in the team put into the update, although on the whole I think we made it better than it was when released in October, with better simulation, physics, sounds, lighting, firebox, water scoops etc. I am very proud of the 5MT and the team behind it, and hopefully we'll have ironed out all of the remaining creases for good next time. :)

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ChrisBarnes wrote:Hi Brendan,

I've looked into the ratcheting sound and have a hunch on why the issue you describe is happening, and how it can be fixed, but until it is fixed I would suggest avoiding warm mode so that you don't get the annoying ratchet on an insanity inducing loop! I've also traced down the exact issue causing the water gauge problem as described by Anthony, and hopefully it can be fixed promptly. There is also a snifter valve problem which I believe I have now fixed, and an AWS sunflower problem. These are the only issues left that I am aware of.

It will all be sorted out for another update that hopefully won't take as long to release, fingers crossed. I apologise that further issues crept in with the update before Xmas; it was disappointing to read about there being further problems after all the work that everyone in the team put into the update, although on the whole I think we made it better than it was when released in October, with better simulation, physics, sounds, lighting, firebox, water scoops etc. I am very proud of the 5MT and the team behind it, and hopefully we'll have ironed out all of the remaining creases for good next time. :)

Kind regards,
Chris
Hi Chris, I've sent in a support ticket to JT about an issue I'm having with the 5MT. Unfortunately the link sent for the ticket doesn't work so I cannot check the status of the ticket and I've received no further communication with JT. It's a strange issue I'm having as I've only encountered it in 1 scenario (Standard to Stranraer). When I reach about 35-40 mph I get what I can only describe as a pneumatic drill being used on a fast setting. I'm using the ActivFireman with the default fireman turned off.
Any ideas what's happening or where I'm going wrong? I'm going to edit another freight scenario and see if it happens on that scenario. I am enjoying the 5MT immensely though, she's a great loco.
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ChrisBarnes wrote:Hi Brendan,

I've looked into the ratcheting sound and have a hunch on why the issue you describe is happening, and how it can be fixed, but until it is fixed I would suggest avoiding warm mode so that you don't get the annoying ratchet on an insanity inducing loop! I've also traced down the exact issue causing the water gauge problem as described by Anthony, and hopefully it can be fixed promptly. There is also a snifter valve problem which I believe I have now fixed, and an AWS sunflower problem. These are the only issues left that I am aware of.

It will all be sorted out for another update that hopefully won't take as long to release, fingers crossed. I apologise that further issues crept in with the update before Xmas; it was disappointing to read about there being further problems after all the work that everyone in the team put into the update, although on the whole I think we made it better than it was when released in October, with better simulation, physics, sounds, lighting, firebox, water scoops etc. I am very proud of the 5MT and the team behind it, and hopefully we'll have ironed out all of the remaining creases for good next time. :)

Kind regards,
Chris
Well done again Chris !

Anthony
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I gave her a first spin finally last night, wanted earlier but ran into some corruption with my TS installation and after re-installing TS didn't get round to it for a while...

Well I was impressed! What a beast! Great piece of work!

I loved the smoke effects, best I've seen so far!

Only thing I was wondering about, and reading the manual this morning I wasn't quite sure yet if it's expected / correct behaviour, is the reverser "creep" which didn't seem like creep at all, but more like jump: when unlocking the reverser, sometimes it just jumps suddenly from forward to backward - from +45% to -40% or so.

It happened to me a couple of times.

Is that something that could happen IRL, or is it a bug?

I was driving the scenario 5MT Vans on the S&D, running light-engine from Bath to Radstock with a rather weathered engine, in case this makes a difference.

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Thanks guys.

Rich, that's an interesting one that I've not heard of before. Does it only occur between speeds of 35-40mph? It could be the snifter valves, which in the latest update stutter open and closed with puffs of steam out of the steam pipes above the cylinders, but if you don't think it's that then please could you upload a video of your problem on YouTube or Vimeo or similar so that I can try and diagnose it.

Tim, when you say the reverser jumps, do you mean it's an instantaneous transition ie. one frame it's 45%, next frame it's changed to -45%? Or is it wobbling back and forth smoothly? It should do the latter. If it's doing the former then the only thing I can think of is that if you press and hold the W/S key with the lock on and then release the lock whilst still holding the W/S key, it will jump to the position of where the reverser would have been if you hadn't locked it, a strange anomaly with the TS LockControl call function.

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ChrisBarnes wrote:Thanks guys.

Tim, when you say the reverser jumps, do you mean it's an instantaneous transition ie. one frame it's 45%, next frame it's changed to -45%? Or is it wobbling back and forth smoothly? It should do the latter. If it's doing the former then the only thing I can think of is that if you press and hold the W/S key with the lock on and then release the lock whilst still holding the W/S key, it will jump to the position of where the reverser would have been if you hadn't locked it, a strange anomaly with the TS LockControl call function.

Kind regards,
Chris
Hi Chris,

I'll need to do some testing on that, hopefully can make some time tonight, but I suspect it might be a case of the latter.... That I had already been holding the W/S key, then pressed 'E' to unlock...

Thanks for the reply, and I'm looking forward to the 7MT & K4 more than ever now!

--Tim
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ChrisBarnes wrote:Thanks guys.

Rich, that's an interesting one that I've not heard of before. Does it only occur between speeds of 35-40mph? It could be the snifter valves, which in the latest update stutter open and closed with puffs of steam out of the steam pipes above the cylinders, but if you don't think it's that then please could you upload a video of your problem on YouTube or Vimeo or similar so that I can try and diagnose it.

Kind regards,
Chris
Hi Chris, first of all thanks for getting back to me. The 5MT has decided not to play ball with me and in the last run I was not hearing the noise at 35-40 MPH at all. 1 thing I did notice however was my short toot whistle (B key) has now started to work on this scenario, before I heard no toot. Could the 2 sounds be related somehow or is it coincidence? I'm going to keep at it though and see if I can get the noise to come back and snatch a recording of it for you guys.
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I have had the B key toot not working on the odd occasion, but that always seems to happen after going into the editor.
Happens on some other locos as well, not just the JT ones, I have always had to do a reboot to clear it.

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