Atomic Systems

Ooo! Forgot to mention that I've now got all the requirements and that this route really is incredible! I can honestly say it is one of the best pieces of freeware available at the moment.

All the best,

semGOWRIE ( )

gptech wrote:Sorry if I'm being thick or missing something here, but if the Regional Railways livery is appropriate why the need to change it for the Northern Rail one--is it a case of a no longer available reskin?

I believe so.

gptech wrote:Sorry if I'm being thick or missing something here, but if the Regional Railways livery is appropriate why the need to change it for the Northern Rail one--is it a case of a no longer available reskin?

The Regional Rail 158 would have appeared at the Porthmadog end being repainted in to Central Trains and later ATW.
As Northern never operated that section there is no need for a Northern Livery

But a 158 at Blaenau is totally wrong as the units are not permitted to work there
The mainstay in BR Days was the 101 - when they retired the 153 became the staple diet in FNW days and in to ATW - although other units appeared.
Now days it's normally a 150/2

Do you want it to be accurate?
If not just use the Kuju 166 in FGW at both ends as most if not all people will have it

Peter

749006 wrote:But a 158 at Blaenau is totally wrong as the units are not permitted to work there

Yes Peter, but that's in real life--I believe the whole idea is to use something that's reasonably representative for the era and area, and as Xavier has sort of confirmed the more appropriate Regional Railways livery is no longer available so an alternative is required. Don't forget that swapping an item is easy if you have something installed that fits the bill better, but there's little to be gained by using stock that many may not have in a release--consider the 101, which released version of the 101 would you choose to use as a base model?

gptech wrote:

749006 wrote:But a 158 at Blaenau is totally wrong as the units are not permitted to work there

Yes Peter, but that's in real life--I believe the whole idea is to use something that's reasonably representative for the era and area, and as Xavier has sort of confirmed the more appropriate Regional Railways livery is no longer available so an alternative is required. Don't forget that swapping an item is easy if you have something installed that fits the bill better, but there's little to be gained by using stock that many may not have in a release--consider the 101, which released version of the 101 would you choose to use as a base model?

Why is the Regional Railways livery not available?
Use this http://store.steampowered.com/app/20834 ... DMU_AddOn/ - not quite RR but would do as AI and it has Central Trains
http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/ste ... 1472121356

Or http://store.steampowered.com/app/25865 ... ute_AddOn/
http://cdn.edgecast.steamstatic.com/ste ... 1493806540
and http://store.steampowered.com/app/27773 ... DMU_AddOn/

Peter

749006 wrote:Why is the Regional Railways livery not available?

possibly because it's a reskin of the S&C 158?

Hi All,

As far as I know, the RREX is still available as a reskin, it just does not come included with the original Settle-Carlisle DLC, so is technically another DLC requirement for that to show properly in the relevant scenarios - and it is of course swappable fairly easily with RWTools. It is a bit of a hassle though, for which I apologise to anyone inconvenienced.

I used the RREX liveried 158 on the grounds that it was the most generic yet plausible stock for both the Conwy Valley and the Cambrian Coast lines, which was my compromise solution to the good question of what would indeed look right...

As previous posts have shown, the two BR lines have always had different populations. Blaenau indeed saw 101's, 153's, and 150's, which are or have been available for TS but would all be extra DLC again (and I never realised that the 158's are not permitted on the branch, you learn something new every day). The 158 is perfectly at home on the Cambrian, just not in FNW colours - hence, again, the use of the RREX livery.

There's probably no real answer to the best solution, I was just pondering the 'next best fit for most people' - which was why I (erroneously) went for the Regional Railways 158. Ultimately, the standard gauge trains are only there to add a bit of background interest whilst driving on the Narrow Gauge anyway, so it's a bit of a digression!

As an aside, an anecdote from my days as a guard: when running into Blaenau with 1992-built DLG on and the old 'C' set - the Carnforth (1990's) and tin car (1970's/1980's) rake that was painted light green in the 1990's - we used to joke about how passengers from Port would soon be getting off the modern railway to join the heritage railway BR class 101 service to carry them on towards Llandudno...

As always, any further thoughts, observations and discussion welcome!


ThePhantomPhish

The MSTS Ffestiniog had a 158 at Blaenau. So it won't be the first time it's been tried in a simulator.

thephantomphish wrote:Hi All,

I used the RREX liveried 158 on the grounds that it was the most generic yet plausible stock for both the Conwy Valley and the Cambrian Coast lines, which was my compromise solution to the good question of what would indeed look right...

ThePhantomPhish

I would think the S9BL Class 158 in Express Livery is best for keeping assets down - it will be one that most people will have and easily swappable to those who wish to do so.

Peter

Although I'm not familiar with the area I had all the required DLC anyway so decided that I may as well give this a try. Truly wonderful!

A quick preview of the next release from the virtual Boston Lodge works.

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Shouldn't be too long in arriving!!

Steve

Wow, can't wait.

spontin wrote:A quick preview of the next release from the virtual Boston Lodge works.

Click the image to zoom in


Shouldn't be too long in arriving!!

Steve

Wow they look excellent and I cant wait to take them for a run up and down the line

They look great: and is that a bug-box I spy in the background?!

semJAMES SPOONER

I have downloaded the Route as well as the rolling stock, unable to run any of the included scenarios without having a class 158DMS RREX.
Does anyone know where I can obtain this from.
Cheers.