Problem with .ap files

[TheTazman]

Hiya

Its currently location is c:\program files\steam\

Simon

Well I got TS to do a verification and it redownloaded all the routes and assets completely afresh but the route still is not appearing in the list.

Hve you moved the Steam installation out of C:\Program Files?....if not you're in the same position as when you started.

[alanch]

Hiya

Its currently location is c:\program files\steam\

Simon

Then it is still in the Program Files folder hierarchy, which Windows is extra protective about. You would be best moving it out of there completely - C:\Steam would work or C:\Games\Steam, or wherever you like as long as it isn't under Program Files.

[peterfhayes]

I agree with installing TS2015 outside the Program Files (+x86 variant) but logically that should not cause a single route not to show in the TS2015 menu (Career only for the default scenarios - not sure about QD). I guess that other routes are showing?
Windows may not even know anything about that route as its loaded internally from within the TS2015 program.
A clean install of TS2015 (ie delete every TS2015 file) without any 3rd party add-ons may be a solution worth trying - if that doesn't work contacting RSC/DTG should be the next step.
pH

[gptech]

For the sake of completeness, does the route show in the 'Build' menus?
I don't expect it will, but it only takes a few minutes to check.

but logically that should not cause a single route not to show in the TS2015 menu

Consider this theory/musing/waffling Peter.... TS is running with the security permissions of the logged on user--said user doesn't have the necessary permissions to view that folders contents--therefore neither does TS. TS can't ask for elevated permissions because as far as Windows is concerned it's just a sub-routine of Steam. As you've said, if Windows doesn't know about the route it doesn't exist.

Whether that's valid, or indeed is a result of Steam being in the System area is open to a great big argument/discussion but it's all rather moot as we're now accepting that having games outside of Program Files is "a good thing"

[peterfhayes]

Gary

Consider this theory/musing/waffling Peter.... TS is running with the security permissions of the logged on user--said user doesn't have the necessary permissions to view that folders contents--therefore neither does TS. TS can't ask for elevated permissions because as far as Windows is concerned it's just a sub-routine of Steam. As you've said, if Windows doesn't know about the route it doesn't exist.

Running as administrator and/or disabling UAC could get around that I guess??

Good points but I don't believe that Windows is that specific .
It would be too complicated, too many rules to follow, Windows is pretty universal when loading stuff into the VAS and it is more worried by exe files and the like. My belief that loading the menus screen is an internal process in TS2015 and the security is predominantly about railworks.exe.
In Procmon as Railway.exe is loading the menu screens none of the route folders seem to be accessed, so the menu icon (which as I understand it is the missing item???) may not be subject to any Windows security at that point.
The specific route only seems to be accessed when you select it with a scenario, editor, etc.

Me personally, I like plain old vanilla waffles!!

pH

[TheTazman]

Well ... It's working. Not changed any settings to do with windows I completely removed steam and its sub folders. Reinstall steam and downloaded ts again. Steam is installed to c:steam at the moment and both Trent and weardale routes appeared after steam downloaded . I am in the process of copying the back up of my assets folders back . Thanks for ur patience.

[Bradforth]

Hi Tazman,
Pleased that your up and running now, may just have been a problem with the Steam folder and not TS.
When you have got everything reinstalled backup your installation.

Regards,
Pete.

[TheTazman]

I have to copy 50 terra quads of data which will take a while lol

[alanch]

I have to copy 50 terra quads of data which will take a while lol

That's what nights are for - you sleep, computer backs up files.

[gptech]

Well ... It's working. Not changed any settings to do with windows

Steam is installed to c:steam

That's a big change 'to do with windows'----it's now no longer a system directory