DTG Class 105 Cravens

[theorganist]

The three car class 105 sets were Midland region based and would most likely not have been seen on the Teeside and Weardale route, the power trailer set provided is much more suitable for this area.

Certainly, but as Chris is after something to presumably remind him of when he was just a wee lad...

can someone tell me which units I would have known as a kid, going through Hinckley on the Leicester to Birmingham New St run

Just because it's been released to be applicable to Weardale it doesn't mean it's the only route you're allowed to run it on

I wasn't suggesting that in the slightest! People can drive what they want on what route they want, I was just clarifying which Craven's units would have been used on Derek's route. I was using a B1 on the Middleton in Teeside branch which would probably not have happened.

I would love to see more first generation sets modelled as they were the backbone of much of BR in the 70's and 80's (and the trains I am most interested in) but I cannot see many more being released as they seem to be a bit of niche area for enthusiasts.

When people were falling over themselves to preserve mainline diesels, DMU's were being withdrawn with little or no representation in preservation for some types. How and why a Swindon class 120 set was never preserved is astonishing.

Peter

[johnmckenzie]

Whilst it's true that in later years they were formed into 3 car sets this wasn't always by the addition of a trailer;

Driving trailer cars 56476/477/478/480 became centre-cars between Class 100 DMBS cars based at Haymarket....
...made up a 3-car set with a Class 101 DTCL in the middle.

Quite a mix!

Using a class 101 TCL wouldn't look out of place for depicting those later sets

As a small child I grew up beside the E-G line and a great many of the 3-car Dunblane services around the mid 1970s onwards were made up from a combination of 3 driving trailers as there was a shortage of trailer cars. I seem to recall the practice had ended by around 1980 - I believe there had been a transfer from the ER which alleviated the problem.

[johnmckenzie]

13.22 Dundee to Edinburgh approaches Markinch formed of class 105/101 hybrid rake. 22nd March 1980 Photo by jbg06003
Courtesy of http://www.scot-rail.co.uk

[gptech]

Basically then...just stick whatever you've got in the middle!

[gptech]

How and why a Swindon class 120 set was never preserved is astonishing.

It'd have to be a 124 for me...used to love going spotting in them.

[theorganist]

Yes they were elegant looking units. In 1984 when they were withdrawn though there was little appetite for preserving DMU's, although a small handful had been preserved.

Would love to see some Cross Country routes with suitable DMU's.

Peter

[winifred89]

How and why a Swindon class 120 set was never preserved is astonishing.

It'd have to be a 124 for me...used to love going spotting in them.

Loved both those trains too , At least they preserved a SwindonClass 126.

[faedundee2]

Well we have two of the cars from this 105 formation https://www.flickr.com/photos/skiddaw_d3/11719689146/ quite an interesting hybrid that! On why a 120 was never preserved it is probably because no one thought about preserving one until it was too late.

[rfletcher72]

On why a 120 was never preserved it is probably because no one thought about preserving one until it was too late.

Splitting hairs perhaps but a trailer car (59276) is preserved at the Great Central Railway,

[atlasduff47]

Yes they were elegant looking units. In 1984 when they were withdrawn though there was little appetite for preserving DMU's, although a small handful had been preserved.

Would love to see some Cross Country routes with suitable DMU's.

Peter

At the risk of repeating myself, repeating myself, repeating myself....................a 124 TPU and an 80's route across the Pennines to Sheffield and perhaps onward to Hull and Leeds, would mean I would be able to die happy.............probably

Andy

[michaelhendle]

What we really could with is a 1954 Derby lightweight they came as a single,2 car set and 4 car set

Mike

[theorganist]

Yes they were elegant looking units. In 1984 when they were withdrawn though there was little appetite for preserving DMU's, although a small handful had been preserved.

Would love to see some Cross Country routes with suitable DMU's.

Peter

At the risk of repeating myself, repeating myself, repeating myself....................a 124 TPU and an 80's route across the Pennines to Sheffield and perhaps onward to Hull and Leeds, would mean I would be able to die happy.............probably

Andy

Yes I agree that would be an awesome route. I was hoping Creative Rail would have made some more 1970's/1980's routes away from the ECML as they seem to be the only commercial developer interested in that period.

I would love to see Bristol to Weymouth set in the 70's with a class 120 or maybe Cardiff to Birmingham or the Central Wales line.

Peter

[atlasduff47]

Yes I agree that would be an awesome route. I was hoping Creative Rail would have made some more 1970's/1980's routes away from the ECML as they seem to be the only commercial developer interested in that period.

I would love to see Bristol to Weymouth set in the 70's with a class 120 or maybe Cardiff to Birmingham or the Central Wales line.

Peter

I too was hoping for the very same thing with the CR ECML, I emailed them and got the reply that there are no plans to extend away from it. I decided to have a bash myself at Doncaster - Sheffield and have track laid as far as Rotherham Masborough, including Aldwarke Junction, and have modelled Conisbrough and Mexborough stations. The reality is though, that I don't have much time spare and don't see this being finished for a very long while

Just realised how off topic this is getting! .................Apologies.

Andy

[749006]

This 3 car set https://www.flickr.com/photos/pics-by-j ... 62082@N24/ has two 105 DMBS with a 101 TSL between.