WCML London and Midlands

[749006]

Then I renamed the drive so Steam still saw the game in the same location.

Changed the drive letter or just the 'friendly' name?
The former really shouldn't be done post installation of programs, and the latter makes no difference as to where Steam sees things---it'll most likely go by the drive letter rather than the volume name. The first time you run Steam after a move it 'sorts itself out' so you basically wasted your time, and possibly built in problems.

My G:\ drive where TS2016 sits is separate from other programs but was running out of room so I bought a bigger drive copied everything from the old drive to the new drive.
I then physically removed the old SSD drive and placed the new drive in it's bay. Having installed I changed it's drive Letter to G:\ and it works
Since the change I have run a number of routes in the game without problems - not sure how moving from a 250GB drive to a 500GB drive was 'Wasting my time' ?

Peter

[bongoboy]

Copy & Pasting 250gb of data stands a good chance of either loss or corruption in my opinion. Ideally you should have cloned the old ssd to the new bigger one using something like Macrium Reflect Free Edition, that way you're certain that the new drive will be a bit for bit image of the old one. All that needs to be done is swap the drives over after cloning and then expand the bigger drive to it's full capacity using windows own disk management.

[Alex55]

Having installed the latest version a couple of notes/comments.

Notes
Departing Euston I still have a number of OHLE cross gantry's missing - either side of the bridge at the end of Euston.
On the Down Fast going round Camden the ground is missing in places and the track sits on Fresh Air.

Problems
Non of the Signals seem to have AWS - at the place the magnet should be is nothing but the F3 HUD indicates there should be a Signal at that spot before the actual Signal.
The Speed boards on the Down Fast after Camden Tunnel and nearer Willesden have a multitude of numbers overlapping each other.

Question
Was a decision made to remove / not model sections of track?
At Willesden Jn there are connections to/from Mitre Bridge Jn and Acton Wells Jn but the point on to the fast and slow lines are missing - there is even a wall between the fast and relief lines
http://raildar.co.uk/map/WIJ

Taking out the various crossovers does spoil the feel of the line and reduce possible operations.

Peter

Hello Peter
The track in v3 was completely re-laid, so it's my fault that there is no junction between the main and relief lines at Willesden
I'm surprised that it's not been mentioned before !
It will be re-installed in the next update

I don't know if this will help regarding the missing gantries/AWS

jt_uk_ohle_mk1_gantry_7t.xml
In JustTrains\CommonLibrary\RailNetwork\Gantries

UK AWS Ramp.xml
In Kuju\RailSimulator\RailNetwork\signals\UK Colour Light\UK_Mod_Track

Sorry, but I can't help with the speed board problem

Andy

[ts2013nerdy]

whats required for the route to run sorry if its already been asked but the thread has alot of pages

[Alex55]

whats required for the route to run sorry if its already been asked but the thread has alot of pages

Main Assets required are:

Photons66 original WCML LM Assets: UKTS File ID: 34101
European Loco & Asset Pack (Steam)
RSC: London Brighton
RSC: Liverpool Manchester
RSC: Woodhead Line
Thomson: WCML Trent Valley
KeithMRoss: WCML north & WCML2 over Shap
Just Trains: Newcastle to Edinburgh & Scottish ECML (ESSENTIAL FOR SIGNALS, GANTRIES & OHLE)

UKTS Freeware Packs
Blocks and Lofts
Clutter
Industrial
Railway Buildings
Carriages v1.1.2

A list of additional assets for improved visual scenic effects & scenarios is also enclosed in the download, UKTS File ID : 35172

[749006]

Hello Peter
The track in v3 was completely re-laid, so it's my fault that there is no junction between the main and relief lines at Willesden
I'm surprised that it's not been mentioned before !
It will be re-installed in the next update

I don't know if this will help regarding the missing gantries/AWS

jt_uk_ohle_mk1_gantry_7t.xml
In JustTrains\CommonLibrary\RailNetwork\Gantries

UK AWS Ramp.xml
In Kuju\RailSimulator\RailNetwork\signals\UK Colour Light\UK_Mod_Track

Sorry, but I can't help with the speed board problem

Andy

Thanks for the reply Andy.

I will have to look again at my installation of the Newcastle - Edinburgh route to see if I'm missing assets there.
I only installed the latest version, N2E-1.07 last week so it should be ok.
For some reason I don't appear to have the UK_Mod_Track folder in Kuju\RailSimulator\RailNetwork\signals\UK Colour Light

Thanks again.

Peter

[749006]

Ok, for some reason part of my Kuju folder had gone walkabout and caused some problems.
A copy from my backup drive sorted that out.
The AWS ramps now appear as they should, the Speed Boards appear correctly.

But not all the OHLE portals appear and I do have a jt_uk_ohle_mk1_gantry_7t.xml dated 12/01/2016 09:37 so I don't know.

Oh well keep looking.

Peter

[Alex55]

Ok, for some reason part of my Kuju folder had gone walkabout and caused some problems.
A copy from my backup drive sorted that out.
The AWS ramps now appear as they should, the Speed Boards appear correctly.

But not all the OHLE portals appear and I do have a jt_uk_ohle_mk1_gantry_7t.xml dated 12/01/2016 09:37 so I don't know.

Oh well keep looking.

Peter

Good news on the AWS & speed boards
Beat me to it !
I tracked down the AWS to the European Community Asset Pack, it's always a pain in the *** tracking down the stuff that ends up in Kuju's folder
Nearly there, just the gantries to sort !

[bongoboy]

Ok, for some reason part of my Kuju folder had gone walkabout and caused some problems.
A copy from my backup drive sorted that out.
The AWS ramps now appear as they should, the Speed Boards appear correctly.

But not all the OHLE portals appear and I do have a jt_uk_ohle_mk1_gantry_7t.xml dated 12/01/2016 09:37 so I don't know.

Oh well keep looking.

Peter

See if you have the folder Assets/JustTrains/ModernTrack/RailNetwork/Gantries in your Railworks installation. This is where the route is apparently looking for some of the gantries.
If you are missing that folder you can create it yourself and then copy the missing files over from the folder you do already have - JustTrains/CommonLibrary/RailNetwork/Gantries.
Otherwise you could use RWTools to swap the gantries reported as missing with those in the CommonLibrary . I suspect you're missing the SECML or some other older JT route.

[749006]

See if you have the folder Assets/JustTrains/ModernTrack/RailNetwork/Gantries in your Railworks installation. This is where the route is apparently looking for some of the gantries.
If you are missing that folder you can create it yourself and then copy the missing files over from the folder you do already have - JustTrains/CommonLibrary/RailNetwork/Gantries.
Otherwise you could use RWTools to swap the gantries reported as missing with those in the CommonLibrary . I suspect you're missing the SECML or some other older JT route.

Thanks Bongoboy - that seem to have done the trick

Although I had the Assets/JustTrains/ModernTrack/RailNetwork/Gantries folder in my setup ( I do have SECML ) the folder was empty.
So a quick copy of the assets from JustTrains/CommonLibrary/RailNetwork/Gantries worked and it now seems quite good

Thanks again to you Andy and Gary for the help.

Peter

[filberttrains]

Hi all,

I don't know if you're still collecting issues for fixing in subsequent versions of the route or taking a well-earned break but I thought I'd pass this on in case you are. I'm working on London-Birmingham scenario and have found that the main aspect signal at the end of Euston platform 18 will not clear. Tab gives you permission to pass it at danger and clears the subsidiary so it's not a major issue, but could do with looking at if you're so inclined.

Cheers,
Filbert

[Alex55]

Hi all,

I don't know if you're still collecting issues for fixing in subsequent versions of the route or taking a well-earned break but I thought I'd pass this on in case you are. I'm working on London-Birmingham scenario and have found that the main aspect signal at the end of Euston platform 18 will not clear. Tab gives you permission to pass it at danger and clears the subsidiary so it's not a major issue, but could do with looking at if you're so inclined.

Cheers,
Filbert

Hi Filbert
Thanks for passing on your findings.
Platforms 13 to 18 (and Euston siding 1 & 2) are signalled to route out of Euston on either Line C or Line E. (then on to down fast/slow at Camden junction)
I have tested them in free roam and all are working correctly.
However, there is a "calling on" facility for these platforms to route onto Line D, which would normally only be used by incoming services.
Have you by any chance, tried to route your service out of Euston on Line D ?

Andy

[Alex55]

Additional help for Filbert.
Having just written a short scenario from platform 18 it seems that the dispatcher wants to route you out of Euston on Line D (he must be new )
To overcome this, insert a "waypoint" via Camden Bank, either Line C or E and you should have no problems

For platforms 1 to 8 the signalling is similar.
Each can route out of Euston on Line C or Line X (or go to Euston Carriage Sidings).
Platforms 9 to 12 can only route out on Line C.
However, the "calling on" facility for platforms 1 through 12 (to allow access to lines not normally used) does not appear to be working correctly and will be rectified in the next update.
Andy

[filberttrains]

Additional help for Filbert.
Having just written a short scenario from platform 18 it seems that the dispatcher wants to route you out of Euston on Line D (he must be new )
To overcome this, insert a "waypoint" via Camden Bank, either Line C or E and you should have no problems

For platforms 1 to 8 the signalling is similar.
Each can route out of Euston on Line C or Line X (or go to Euston Carriage Sidings).
Platforms 9 to 12 can only route out on Line C.
However, the "calling on" facility for platforms 1 through 12 (to allow access to lines not normally used) does not appear to be working correctly and will be rectified in the next update.
Andy

Ah yes, my train was being routed via Line D as well and a waypoint via Line C has fixed it. Thanks for the help.

[photons66]

Trains are routed out of Line D in reality; what happens is that they check incoming trains at the signals above the Grand Union. All those lines between Camden Junction and Euston should be reversible.
If trains can't get out of Line D, then thee's a missing crossover somewhere.