WCML London and Midlands

[Alex55]

The latest version of JT's CommonLibrary will be included in any of the DLC it is shipped with.
Just re-download the route you have that it came with.

[deltic100]

Hi just one question which erea is the route set in because I installed the Telegraph poles file ID 30726 and transmission lines file ID 30832 it puts them alongside the line all the way between London and Birmingham so it looks like it was a Steam area route but I uninstalled them because they look at of place I want the modern look to the west coast

[GrahamP]

I have a rather strange phenomena with the signalling on this route. As I approach signals virtually all of them with the odd exception are yellow until I pass over the aws magnet and then they change to green and the aws warning sounds. I could understand this if I was following another train but I am not and it happens so regularly at exactly the point that I hit the aws magnet. If I watch progress on the map I can see the yellow signal in front and then it changes to green. Is anyone else seeing this? It would be good to find a fix as it does get annoying having to cancel the aws at every signal.

This is a subject which has been discussed previously.
I'm not a signal "Guru", but I believe the reason a Yellow/Double Yellow signal changes to green when you pass over it's associated AWS ramp, is down to "approach control" and will occur for a number of reasons.
It may occur when there has been a service ahead of you but should not happen continuously.
A good example of this is scenario [16] Euston - Birmingham non stop.
The signal sequence is (depending on how heavy handed you are):
Red (at the platform) changing to Single flashing yellow.
Double solid Yellow at Camden Bank
Green at Camden Junction.
Green at the start of Primrose Hill tunnel
Double solid Yellow exiting Primrose Hill tunnel, which changes to Green as you pass over it's associated AWS ramp.
It's then Greens all the way to Birmingham.
This sequence (after the Red) is initiated by a service ahead of you.
If you can identify the scenarios where your "strange phenomena" is occurring, I will have a look.
One thing to check, make sure you have the latest Just Trains CommonLibrary installed.

Thanks for the help on this. Downloading and installing the latest Common Library seems to have sorted the problem.

[simon3747]

Hi.

Since the new version came in I've been moving across some scenarios that I've been writing. All have been good except 1 which is a scenario between Birmingham New Street to London Euston via the Northampton loop. This particular scenario won't load and has error message that "Marker has missing ribbons - Birmingham International P4 with the same error message also affecting Coventry platform 1, Long Buckby platform 1, Northampton platform 1 and Wolverton platform 4. Other stations such as Leighton Buzzard, Watford Junction etc, etc aren't listed as being affected. Anybody got any ideas?

Thanks,

Simon

[bongoboy]

Just open the scenario in the editor in timetable mode and remove then re-add the platforms that throw up the missing ribbons error.

[simon3747]

Just open the scenario in the editor in timetable mode and remove then re-add the platforms that throw up the missing ribbons error.

That solution has worked absolutely fine. Thank you so much

Kind regards,

Simon

[smarty2]

Wondering if someone could identify these pipes http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =857794737 and these http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =857794797 so I can swap them out with the double cable trunking please?

I have gone into the world editor and hovered my cursor over said pipes but it won't show/unselectable?

[Alex55]

Wondering if someone could identify these pipes http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =857794737 and these http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =857794797 so I can swap them out with the double cable trunking please?

I have gone into the world editor and hovered my cursor over said pipes but it won't show/unselectable?

Hi Martin.

\Assets\Thomson\EandG\Scenery\Industrial\SH_pipe06.bin

\Assets\Thomson\WCMLTrentValley\Scenery\Clutter\elevated_cable_trough_loft_2.bin

Hope this helps

Andy

[smarty2]

Thanks alot, funny how my mouse wouldn't highlight it in the editor? Thanks again.

[Alex55]

Thanks alot, funny how my mouse wouldn't highlight it in the editor? Thanks again.

My pleasure.

Nothing wrong with your mouse, double clicking on a "loft" wont produce an object name.
Luckily I knew their names and also which DLC they were from.

[749006]

I'm not a signal "Guru", but I believe the reason a Yellow/Double Yellow signal changes to green when you pass over it's associated AWS ramp, is down to "approach control" and will occur for a number of reasons.

A good example of this is scenario [16] Euston - Birmingham non stop.
The signal sequence is (depending on how heavy handed you are):
Red (at the platform) changing to Single flashing yellow..

There are no Flashing Yellows at Euston station.
The first Flashing Yellows after departing Euston are on Line C before and after Park St Tunnel to indicate the signal at Camden Jn is set towards the Down Electric.

Peter

[Alex55]

I'm not a signal "Guru", but I believe the reason a Yellow/Double Yellow signal changes to green when you pass over it's associated AWS ramp, is down to "approach control" and will occur for a number of reasons.

A good example of this is scenario [16] Euston - Birmingham non stop.
The signal sequence is (depending on how heavy handed you are):
Red (at the platform) changing to Single flashing yellow..

There are no Flashing Yellows at Euston station.
The first Flashing Yellows after departing Euston are on Line C before and after Park St Tunnel to indicate the signal at Camden Jn is set towards the Down Electric.

Peter

Hello Peter
The signal sequence I referred to, was an attempt to explain to Graham, that he should not be getting as many "yellows", flashing or otherwise, that he was getting !
He re-installing Just Trains CommonLibrary and that solved his issue.
The sequence I personally experience at the start of this scenario is/was not the issue, just an example of the very few "yellows" you should expect on this run.
I'm not really sure what your point is?

BTW. The signal at the end of platform 15 still changes from red to flashing single yellow when I play the scenario.
However, I don't doubt for one minute that you may experience something quite different

[749006]

I'm not a signal "Guru", but I believe the reason a Yellow/Double Yellow signal changes to green when you pass over it's associated AWS ramp, is down to "approach control" and will occur for a number of reasons.

A good example of this is scenario [16] Euston - Birmingham non stop.
The signal sequence is (depending on how heavy handed you are):
Red (at the platform) changing to Single flashing yellow..

There are no Flashing Yellows at Euston station.
The first Flashing Yellows after departing Euston are on Line C before and after Park St Tunnel to indicate the signal at Camden Jn is set towards the Down Electric.

Peter

Hello Peter
I'm not really sure what your point is?

The signal at the end of platform 15 still changes from red to flashing single yellow when I play the scenario.

Hi Alex,

The point I was trying to make is why does the driver need to know he is going from a 25mph route to a 25 mph route?
Slow speed routes have no need for Flashing Yellows unless it's to indicate an important diversion.
On line C departing Euston the signals outside the station have the Flashing yellows telling the driver he's going on to the DC Local lines.
And the Real Signals at Euston Station don't have Flashing Yellows - the fact the do so in the route is wrong.
If the signal at the end of P15 flashes the Signal is set up wrong.

Peter

[gptech]

And the Real Signals at Euston Station don't have Flashing Yellows - the fact the do so in the route is wrong.

Come on Peter, there are a limited number of signals available to use, and if the signal of the right shape/configuration for a location uses a script that means it flashes the yellows when used in that particular instance when it (prototypically) shouldn't you have to put it down to 'creative license'....either that or produce your own signal or script. I'm sure if you sorted one out Andy would use it, and the rest of us would thank you for fixing a really serious error.

[749006]

And the Real Signals at Euston Station don't have Flashing Yellows - the fact the do so in the route is wrong.

Come on Peter, there are a limited number of signals available to use, and if the signal of the right shape/configuration for a location uses a script that means it flashes the yellows when used in that particular instance when it (prototypically) shouldn't you have to put it down to 'creative license'....either that or produce your own signal or script. I'm sure if you sorted one out Andy would use it, and the rest of us would thank you for fixing a really serious error.

I did not know which signals are used on the route and I thought you had to 'tick a box' to make the signal flash for a diverting route.
I thought maybe the box had been ticked in error.

Peter