Atomic Systems

Hi all,

Is there anything specific that could cause the keyboard-based driving controls not to work on a single Electric Multiple Unit?

The keyboard-based camera controls respond okay but the throttle/brake and horn don't work but they work okay on the HUD buttons and XBOX controller.

The EMU and reskin in question are the Class 444 EMU with Gatwick Express reskin.

Many thanks.

I think you need to have the Armstrong Powerhouse Desiro sound pack for this reskin to work, I remember having this problem with the 350 reskins and Richard (Fletcher) told me that I needed the sound pack for them to work so I assume this is the problem.

If the .bin supplied with the reskin does call for an AP sound pack you don't have installed the options are:

Edit the .bin to point to the same sound files as the default stock.
Copy a default .bin over the reskin's .bin and edit that to point to the numbering, digits, and GeoPcDx files (possibly other files too) for the reskin.
Buy and install the sound pack.
Natter at the reskin's provider for a .bin file on behalf of the many who won't have the soundpack, which will work with default stock.

This is interesting as a couple of months ago I downloaded a WS scenario using the class 444 and the Gatwick Express reskin and I also found could only drive the train using the F4 HUD! That maybe explains why I had issues then.

You could try editing the reskins .bin file from

to

That certainly explains why the keyboard doesn't fully work, as you won't have the "ExpertRemapper" unless you have the AP sound pack, and if the game can't find the file then it doesn't know what to do when you press a key.

This reskin does need the AP sounds. I need to update the readme for this and others to ensure these are unambiguous with regards to this point.

I included the requirement for these as it enhances the reskin - I apply AP sounds to DLC for the same reasons as others. But I do find it tends to cause issues for some users who install my reskins, who either do not have the AP sounds, and those who then install these thereafter.

The NSE reskin of the Class 319 DLC that was recently released aliases only 'default' sounds. I feel this provides the 'path of least resistance' for both me and users, by aliasing default files - this may become the standard going forward.

Not ideal for some I know, but if I include AP linked files I get queries from people who do not have these sounds, and if I do not include files that alias AP sounds, I get queries from people who do have these.

Rock and hard place.

Regards,

A case of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't" Richard, you're always going to get it wrong

gptech wrote:"Damned if you do, damned if you don't"

My thoughts exactly Gary, though perhaps my thoughts are in a slightly more colloquial manner ,

Richard

I guess the sounds of the railway are less important to some than others but I do not understand why one would live with the poor sounds often supplied by default for the sake of a fiver...
An obvious solution is to produce a seperate download link for each version default an one that makes use of AP sounds. Make the default one the obvious one to download and ap soundpack owners will quickly learn to download the correct version for them. I am presuming Richard you produce reskins for you own consumption and as you have the soundpacks it makes sense to make use of them. It would be a shame to not release the enhanced version if there is one available.
Eitherway though I thank you for all the good work you share with us all for free.

I've thought long and hard about this sound issue with my upcoming Deltic pack and other work.

One way would be to provide them as default sounds, but include a separate .rwp installer for replacement config files only that reference the AP soundpack for those who don't have them.

The Class 52 Pack was different, the AP pack requirement was due to referencing physics and assets included within.

I actually bought the AP Desiro pack specifically so I could use Richard's 350 reskins on the DPS WCMLoS scenario pack (SP10) which had FTPE 350 scenarios. Great work and thanks for doing your reskins.

Gents, don't forget that when a reskin is flagged as *needing* a sound pack it really means that the .bin files for the reskin need such a pack because they reference it. The textures themselves don't have any connection with any kind of sound (other than the colloquialisms uttered during their production ) so it's not hard at all to copy and edit the default version of a .bin to point to the reskin's folder.

There are loads of tutorials and hints in various forums, and hundreds of willing folk who'd help if you got stuck. Delving into .bin files is also a very good way of 'getting yer head round' how things work which brings enormous benefit when you hit other problems.

. . . and also breaking things gptech but I will have to stop being lazy and check out the tutorials as it would be handy to be able to confidently do the editing ourselves