Dovetail Games MML London Bedford Route

[Mr395008]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but is there a way I can get the pantograph to work on the FCC 377? Is there a new version I need to download?

Has anyone found a fix for this? I can't get the AI movements for 377's to run with their pantograph up. Isn't realistic with them down.

[gptech]

You'll probably need to create a new .bin file with the control values defined for the panto and shoes to be up rather than the default of down. I'll have a proper look when I get home.

[Mr395008]

You'll probably need to create a new .bin file with the control values defined for the panto and shoes to be up rather than the default of down. I'll have a proper look when I get home.

I wouldn't know where to start with that! Thanks

[FoityBill]

Does the high or low option for the PTOSL do anything to alleviate this, do you need to select the high version for OHLE?

[Mr395008]

Does the high or low option for the PTOSL do anything to alleviate this, do you need to select the high version for OHLE?

I've been using the high version and it's that what isn't working. I haven't tried the low option because it would be too low.

[smarty2]

Check the folder properties Martin. They may be 'read only'.

I ran the make all folders read write in RWTools, made no difference. Then I noticed I hadn't copied over the routes .xml file.... Doh!

[gptech]

Apologies if this has already been posted, but is there a way I can get the pantograph to work on the FCC 377? Is there a new version I need to download?

Has anyone found a fix for this? I can't get the AI movements for 377's to run with their pantograph up. Isn't realistic with them down.

I can get it working so driven consists start with the panto up, but AI trains steadfastly ignore the instruction!!

If anybody wants to have a play about, what I did is:

Copied the Class377_DMOC.bin into the same folder and renamed this copy to Class377_DMOC-AC.bin
Opened it with RW Tools and changed

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						<cControlContainerBlueprint-cControlValue d:id="75520736">
							<ControlName d:type="cDeltaString">PantographControl</ControlName>
							<DefaultValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">0</DefaultValue>
							<MinimumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</MinimumValue>
							<MaximumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</MaximumValue>

to

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						<cControlContainerBlueprint-cControlValue d:id="75520736">
							<ControlName d:type="cDeltaString">PantographControl</ControlName>
							<DefaultValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</DefaultValue>
							<MinimumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</MinimumValue>
							<MaximumValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="000000000000F03F" d:precision="string">1</MaximumValue>

Just that single digit change makes driven consists start with the panto up, but you still have full control over raising/lowering it if you wish.

There are references further down in the .bin to the panto controls, and the 3rd rail shoes controls, but changing these made no difference to AI nor did editing the values in the PTSOL's bin itself.

Any thoughts/hints/freshly clutched straws anyone??

[rosschris10]

well i highly recommend MR395008 Scenario for this on the workshop its amazing!!!!!!!!!

[gptech]

Does the high or low option for the PTOSL do anything to alleviate this, do you need to select the high version for OHLE?

No, both high and low versions are the panto raised, the former to a greater height than the latter to cater for the two different catenary heights featured in routes. As far as I'm aware all UK based routes use the higher one.
The height the panto raises to is determined by the animation, so the high version only differs from the low one in the name of the animation it points to.

[FoityBill]

No, both high and low versions are the panto raised, the former to a greater height than the latter to cater for the two different catenary heights featured in routes. As far as I'm aware all UK based routes use the higher one.
The height the panto raises to is determined by the animation, so the high version only differs from the low one in the name of the animation it points to.

Thanks for that clarification, I always thought the high/low variants were to do with AC or DC selections.

[TheTazman]

Having just purchased the new MML route I still feel that this route again lacks atmosphere. The stations again feel inert really we need station announcements and some more ambient sounds. The 319 I could not seem to hear very well the door beeps as they open and close. It would be nice to hear some sounds in the passenger compartment .

The graphics are pretty good but it still needs work to bring it to life. I wish my chosen provider of train simulation could do this. We have seen third party addons able to bring better atmosphere but dtg should be on par or better.

[groundhog]

I have to say, I am rather tempted to get this route, since I don't own neither the 319 nor the EWS 66.
Could someone explain the differences between the MML versions of the 319 and 66 and the regular DLC packs, please?

[twirlycactus]

I have to say, I am rather tempted to get this route, since I don't own neither the 319 nor the EWS 66.
Could someone explain the differences between the MML versions of the 319 and 66 and the regular DLC packs, please?

No difference really, Just the route includes different wagons than the 66 DLC.

[groundhog]

Great, thanks!

[PaulH2]

Having just purchased the new MML route I still feel that this route again lacks atmosphere.

That's my basic impression too. Its certainly not a bad route, at all, there's nothing wrong with it (bar a couple of speed changes incorrect on the HUD), but it feels dead. There a big stretches of major road (especially on the approaches to London) with no cars, the stations have few if any passengers. Hard to put my finger on it but compared to, say London to Brighton, it just feels too quiet. Its not a part of the country or the rail network I'm at all familiar with, but I can't help feeling in reality its a busy, bustling, crowded area, not a ghost town!

Still, I've enjoyed my couple of runs so far and am looking forward to a run from Bedford to Brighton on the combined version in due course. I'll get some decent mileage out of the route to be sure, but it really needs some good engaging scenarios to distract you.

Paul