South London Network merged with London to Brighton.

[danny3]

just to note there is now an update which includes hove station (well as good as i can get without new models) and minor changes. There will probably one more update before becoming finalised with corrections to some signals (nothing major).

forgot pictures - http://alienworlds.co.uk/blog/2014/11/2 ... n-updates/

Hi Danny,

Thanks for your brilliant work, looking forward to writing some scenarios for it when you finalise. Don't know if you've done so already but adding scenery at Reigate would be a nice relatively easy win given that it's a starting and terminating point for services from and to Victoria and London Bridge.

In this case probably not, I only really wanted to put in hove because i felt that it was missing from London to Brighton, as for Reigate its a good call but in this case i really don't have time to add any more scenery for this one. That's not to say if I extend it in the future (although another route) after this one is finalised. (if i could though i would extend it to Caterham, Tattenham Corner, amongst other places but saying that I do have ideas where to go but not going to say where just yet, but only because it might take a while and of course free time at the moment but thank you though

[gypbrc]

I actually did the scenery to Reigate. I'll see if I still have it somewhere.

[danny3]

Just to post here, I've made the probably last Update to the route and includes. (just need to double check before actually pressing final, just in case i haven't messed anything up in the process)

* Now includes Reigate, with thanks to gypbrc who did the scenery for the section (with minor tweaks and tidying by myself & changing assets to South London Versions)
* Requested - Added additional portals for those that wanted to import London - Brighton scenarios, so if in doubt use the portals labelled "Portal"

(Just in case though this will not guarantee that those scenarios will work unfortunately)

[JustRight]

Just to post here, I've made the probably last Update to the route and includes. (just need to double check before actually pressing final, just in case i haven't messed anything up in the process)

* Now includes Reigate, with thanks to gypbrc who did the scenery for the section (with minor tweaks and tidying by myself & changing assets to South London Versions)
* Requested - Added additional portals for those that wanted to import London - Brighton scenarios, so if in doubt use the portals labelled "Portal"

(Just in case though this will not guarantee that those scenarios will work unfortunately)

Great Danny!

Many thanks for including those extra Portals, that will be a BIG help. As you say though, everyone should be aware that many scenarios will not run after importing to SL2B. Generally these are pathing issues, and of course the renaming of the Battersea Park platforms. Additionally the location of some AI trains on older L2B scenarios don't translate well into SL2B particularly in the London area where some subtle track layout changes have taken place. Generally though fixing up these problems has not been difficult and I have converted many of my L2B scenarios.

Once again, many thanks for your efforts.

Cheers,
Trevor

[danny3]

Just in case though I'd advise against changing the actual platforms at Battersea Park in the South London to Brighton route because this may break other scenarios from South London Network. (if these are imported too) (these were actually wrong in London - Brighton where the markers where labelled incorrectly but the numbers on the platforms were correct). Also there shouldn't be that many changes to the track, only where it was extended towards London Bridge. (in the South London network), but you are welcome

[JustRight]

Just in case though I'd advise against changing the actual platforms at Battersea Park in the South London to Brighton route because this may break other scenarios from South London Network. (if these are imported too) (these were actually wrong in London - Brighton where the markers where labelled incorrectly but the numbers on the platforms were correct). Also there shouldn't be that many changes to the track, only where it was extended towards London Bridge. (in the South London network), but you are welcome

No probs there Danny. I was only changing the Battersea Park platform names within any scenarios that reference them.

I have had a look at all the Portals you have added. All look good, thanks! Only Tulse Hill North and South were in slightly different locations than where I had them, but that won't matter.

The other small thing I noticed was that the 'Miles' and 'Minutes' attribute values on all the Portals you added are zero? What function do these values serve? All of the original Portals on L2B have some non zero value for each of these attributes. Is this important or can they be ignored?

Cheers,
Trevor

[danny3]

Not sure but they'll still work fine without them though. I've never used the minutes thing when i've placed scenarios, but the route will probably be "finalised" soon so i won't be able to make changes after that.

[JustRight]

but the route will probably be "finalised" soon so i won't be able to make changes after that.

Sounds good mate, Well Done!

One final question though. How did you go about finding that small gap in the track at South Croydon? I have come across a couple of scenarios having lots of trouble pathing through Balham and also Norwood Junction.

For example I have a scenario with a AI train that is positioned just north of Norwood Junction on the central line of the 6 lines there. This track lines up with "Norwood Jn 4". The instructions include a passenger stop at "Norwood Jn 4" and then a stop at "East Croydon P6" where it terminates. As it stands the dispatcher cannot path this train through Norwood Junction. But, if I remove the instruction for "Norwood Jn 4" then it happily paths the train though "Norwood Jn 4" and on to "East Croydon P6" ????? Very strange.

Just thought I would double check the trackwork there as well.

Thanks,
Trevor

[danny3]

If it goes through Norwood Junction fine there is nothing wrong with the trackwork it would be a problem with the platform marker. Although i just did the same but it worked fine?? Equally i've just tried to path a few trains trough balham and have had no issues? Unless these are the london to brighton scenarios you are on about?

[JustRight]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for trying that out. Must be something peculiar with the particular L2B scenarios that I was trying to work on.

Cheers,
Trevor

[danny3]

Hi Danny,

Thanks for trying that out. Must be something peculiar with the particular L2B scenarios that I was trying to work on.

Cheers,
Trevor

it could be that the tracks may have been tweaked around that area because it was extended further outwards, also for balham, if its coming out of Streatham Hill (I changed the length of platform 2 in the south london network because (so South London to Brighton will be the same) it was the wrong length in london to brighton) but might have also changed the numbers around too as they were labelled wrong (1 was 2 and 2 was 1 ).

Edit - Looks like I can't finise the route yet, as steam won't let me still. I press the "Final" button but nothing happens, so I'll have to wait until its fixed.

[stuart666]

That may be due to the way things are setup. You can only finalize a route on steam when it receives more than 30 votes. I guess its to stop the system being choked up with routes that dont work.

[danny3]

Well it has 170+ votes or ratings so i dont think it would be that, also you cant press the final button at all if you have less than 30.

[FoggyMorning]

Well it has 170+ votes or ratings so i dont think it would be that, also you cant press the final button at all if you have less than 30.

It seems to be a known issue with the interface between TS and Steam. It's discussed further here: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... st35862551

[JustRight]

it could be that the tracks may have been tweaked around that area because it was extended further outwards, also for balham, if its coming out of Streatham Hill (I changed the length of platform 2 in the south london network because (so South London to Brighton will be the same) it was the wrong length in london to brighton) but might have also changed the numbers around too as they were labelled wrong (1 was 2 and 2 was 1 ).

Yes indeed. The Streatham Hill platforms have been renamed. I shall keep an eye out for them as well.

Thanks.