DTG producing the South London network

[37114]

Now don't quote me on this but I believe the sim starts to break when the tracks.bin file gets to around 10mb.

Sorry...couldn't resist quoting you

To be serious though, it's possible to crash the game--or any game--by overloading the PC it's running on, as ALL PCs have finite resources. A 5 mile stretch of track with an inordinate number of scenic assets around the track could cause problems for example.
With a commuter network such as South London the sheer number of signals, and the associated scripting and pathing options, could be more of a problem than just the amount of track, and this would/could push the tracks.bin file size up.
Has anybody noted any change in the performance of their machine around the *busier* parts of what we already have in the London area? If there's a noticeable improvement that could indicate a more efficient core routine which may alleviate such problems---if it's got worse then we're all up that mucky creek though...

Lol. It was something I read somewhere (probably on here). Ye you're right.

[gptech]

It was something I read somewhere (probably on here). Ye you're right.

I'd say we're both right, give or take a MB or two at some point there will be just too much for the game to deal with and it'll have a nervous breakdown--whether that's a total amount of assets/size of combined .bins to load or it deals with a limited size per .bin file is conjecture. Suffice to sat though there will be a limit, whether that's totally 'fixable' by increased efficiency in the loading/caching routines is also pretty much guesswork.
As we know that the route has been developed by a UKTS member though, it's likely that his PC is going to be like our PCs so if it runs on his.....
(now we find out he has a Cray in his cellar....)

[Mr395008]

Latest picture on Facebook, showing a Southern Class 456.

[Irishrailguy]

Latest picture on Facebook, showing a Southern Class 456.

Great to have another gap filled with the 456, not exactly eager to get it though as it's my least favorite EMU (I mean, who on earth thought it would be a good idea to have the cables hanging down in front of the lights? )

Kev

[rfletcher72]

but maybe effort could have been made to create one piece of unique rolling stock for this package

Judging by the latest WIP screenshots of the route then, maybe some effort has been expended in such a direction?

Regards,

[deltic009]

but maybe effort could have been made to create one piece of unique rolling stock for this package

Judging by the latest WIP screenshots of the route then, maybe some effort has been expended in such a direction?

Regards,

And herein lies the fault with keyboard crystal balls! Don't worry though, people will decry it as new because it shares similarities with the 319+321 so it's not new anymore.

[JCogman]

Favourite route + favourite unit = Sold! Given peoples dislike of the class, I must say it's a welcome suprise to see it finally created for the sim

[749006]

Great to have another gap filled with the 456, not exactly eager to get it though as it's my least favorite EMU (I mean, who on earth thought it would be a good idea to have the cables hanging down in front of the lights? )

Kev

The Class 508 units on BR Southern Region had Automatic Couplings and the 455's when the units were designed would have had Automatic couplings, like the 317 which has the same body shell.
But at some point it was decided to have end Jumper Cables which spoilt the end design and the 456's had end cables to multi with the 455's although the 456 has the newer end cabs as seen on the 321.

And where it's not be a good idea to have the MU Cables in front of the lights what is the alternative?

Peter

[Merlin75]

Here's a quote from Martin from DTG that gives some information about where the route covers.

I am seeing a lot of comments about what the route will include. Here is the highlights:

The main line from Victoria to East Croydon forms the western boundary, while the line from London Bridge south to West Croydon crosses at Selhurst and forms the eastern boundary. Both lines join at Selhurst into he Brighton Main Line. Two roughly concentric semi-circles link the two lines further into the city, the 9-mile inner circle (via Denmark Hill) and 16-mile outer circle (via Crystal Palace).

We will have more information coming soon.

- Martin

[gooberii]

Here's a quote from Martin from DTG that gives some information about where the route covers.

I am seeing a lot of comments about what the route will include. Here is the highlights:

The main line from Victoria to East Croydon forms the western boundary, while the line from London Bridge south to West Croydon crosses at Selhurst and forms the eastern boundary. Both lines join at Selhurst into he Brighton Main Line. Two roughly concentric semi-circles link the two lines further into the city, the 9-mile inner circle (via Denmark Hill) and 16-mile outer circle (via Crystal Palace).

We will have more information coming soon.

- Martin

This is exactly what I hoped would be covered, as I travel three out of those four lines regularly as they're local to me. Alongside the Brighton main line, I was hoping for a route like this to be developed when I first bought the sim. Very excited for this one!

[Jimmerz]

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 378 included with this considering roughly 90% of the route that Merlin posted is covered by 378's and a main depot for them is at New Cross Gate. Still looking forward to this one as it's a regular one for me, Buffer Puffer-esque scenario anyone?

James

[gypbrc]

I built the route on my laptop which is in quite a state so I don't think there will be too many people who have a problem running it. Certainly no more demanding than running the original Brighton Main Line.

[xguerra]

but maybe effort could have been made to create one piece of unique rolling stock for this package

Judging by the latest WIP screenshots of the route then, maybe some effort has been expended in such a direction?

Regards,

And herein lies the fault with keyboard crystal balls! Don't worry though, people will decry it as new because it shares similarities with the 319+321 so it's not new anymore.

Yes indeed a terrible error on my behalf, jumping the gun before being given the signal.
That'll teach me to doubt DTG.

[xguerra]

Anyway, let's have that shot blown up a bit:

[deltic009]

Wouldn't be surprised to see a 378 included with this considering roughly 90% of the route that Merlin posted is covered by 378's and a main depot for them is at New Cross Gate. Still looking forward to this one as it's a regular one for me, Buffer Puffer-esque scenario anyone?

James

I would. If it logically fits large parts of the route then it will be DLC with the 456 being included, same as 390 on WCML, 90 and GEML, 91 and ECMLS etc