TS2015 is here.

chrisell · Post by **chrisell** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 12:43 am

longbow wrote:Allowing users and third parties to create content makes the game more appealing and makes DTG more money. So why would they change policy for the UE version, especially as content availability is likely to be a major factor in persuading TS users to upgrade?

They likely won't change policy. But they'll be starting from ground-zero again with no available 3rd party content....

ihavenonamenoreallyidont · Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:26 am

Correct. I'd be more than happy to switch to the new technology, happy in the knowledge my TS2015 will remain untouched should I wish to revisit old content.

longbow · Post by **longbow** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:59 am

Hopefully not ground zero as I would guess many TD assets could be reexported from the original modelling programs after some tweaking.

oldoakcom · Post by **oldoakcom** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 6:07 am

I know it´s to early to say but even sketchup exports to FBX which is the file format for importing things into the Unreal Engine 4, maybe changing will make content from third or even forth or fith parties easyer to do ?

smartie38 · Post by **smartie38** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:26 am

Fact is though they can't stay with the core engine they have now, it's so outdated that these modern routes with so many assets and the extra features they keep bolting onto the engine are bringing high spec pc systems to a crawl at times and turning the game into a slideshow!

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markpullinger · Post by **markpullinger** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 8:28 am

Hi, initial impressions of the sound is that the software mixing is better and in stereo but was missing the reverb effects. I have switched software mixing off again, so I can use my soundblaster properly.

devonl · Post by **devonl** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:03 am

Hi All,

Firstly I should say that I very seldom actually drive in TS, spend most of my time in the route editor, so I cant really comment on some issues which other users are finding.

For those who are possibly route building and are concerned about the upgrade, just thought I would post and let you know that after the upgrade my own routes were still working as before and I couldn't pick up any difference when editing routes (no sudden crashes or anything). So for me at least, I can carry on as before.

As mentioned above I spend most of my time in the route editor. Something I noticed when tinkering about with a route I created in Railworks days, is just how much easier it is (over a period game versions) to route build now vs a few years ago - well in my opinion anyway. From track smoothing to asset blocks, Google overlay and I very rarely ever get an SBHH (which I recall happened to me frequently in Railworks).

As for the features of the upgrade, the clouds look nice but I don't like the wind sound (which on my system at least sounds like I am in a wind tunnel) and I must admit the menus are quite nonsensical. Irregular asset block tool I think is great though. Haven't noticed any change in frame rates.

I am sorry about the challenges faced by others, but am pleased (& relieved) that its business as usual in the route editor.

Kind regards,

Devon

andynwt · Post by **andynwt** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:19 am

Scenarios are taking vastly longer for me to load than before. Guess this is the usual post update struggles we always suffer and things will gradually improve.

Traveller54 · Post by **Traveller54** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:21 am

Hi Devon, being a similar user as yourself I though I would add a little and ask a little!

First the add:
The 'extra' fixed flyout at the bottom is a little of a problem as I can't find any instructions (maybe I missed them somewhere?) what the extra gizmos actually do. Worked some out but the globe and house are a mystery to me as are the three left icons? Also had the left flyouts lock up on me this morning which needed a complete restart?

The visuals for some assets are handy but it looks, at first glance, that for these to appear there has to be a thumbnail somewhere which I need to investigate before I finalize my thoughts here?

There is still and issue with the font sizes in the right flyout and the error box being to small to read - but at least the irritating scrolling in the asset menus has been replaced with a one-click scroll!

Switching from one editor to another (assets, lines etc.) seems to have a lag now as before it was almost instant?

On the front end new 'Menu' I have found that it doesn't hold on to the last route/scenario used as before?

Now the ask: I thought I read somewhere about being able to search the assets by word - not found yet if there is?

More experimenting required ....

Varney · Post by **Varney** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:36 am

Anyone tried the Academy yet?

The very first thing you are asked to do in the first tutorial is to put the reverser in full forward by rotating the lever clockwise. Why then does this actually put it in reverse?

Not a great start.

scorpion71 · Post by **scorpion71** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:50 am

Oh the joys! ECML will not load and keeps crashing to desktop - I initially thought it had something to do with the new clouds but it's fine loading the other 2 routes with the new weather system and I have also ticked the option off and will still not load.

I'll have to check my other routes now.

Luckily I have my backup to go back to as I ain't doing a verify.

As for the new menu system, well others have already mentioned what utter garbage that is!!

Edit: Copied the old route folder back in and still won't load, mehhhhh, back to T2014 for me, can't be doing with this!

david1 · Post by **david1** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 9:54 am

Still not impressed with TS2015, having tried a few miles on various routes all with poor frame rates which worked fine on the highest setting is TS2014, I have reset to high lever which gives better performance having just bought Liverpool to Manchester in the sale and the class 35 decided to drive the Hymek from Manchester to Liverpool ( I know Hymeks did not run here) Liked the route but for the first complete run in TS2015, well I say completed the game crashed just before enter Lime St. Error message no disk in the drive - Insert disk into Device\Harddisk2\DR2 come on DTG neither was my installation done using a disk and my Installation resides on my primary HHD my second drive is for backup.

why does DTG keep adding new things but wont fix old errors so this versions will have the same crash problems as previous versions, you would think they would be able to fix there own game and a new UE wont fix there lack of go back and fix errors

DaveDewhurst · Post by **DaveDewhurst** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:01 am

scorpion71 wrote:As for the new menu system, well others have already mentioned what utter garbage that is!!

Just found this, which seems to work and is a relief
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/s ... ?t=3260916

Dave

Rockdoc2174 · Post by **Rockdoc2174** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:04 am

Great news! Must give that a try.

Keith

tads1970 · Post by **tads1970** » Sat Sep 20, 2014 10:43 am

I have not had TS installed for over a year,upgraded to TS15 and not impressed running on my system.It's far from the simulator that I'm looking for,only OpenBVE hits the spot these days -only wish
a group of programmers and a publisher could see the potential and start making UK routes with the build quality of Steven Bowden's Watford Junction - Rugby route,this platform tick's all the boxes
for me,with physics and motion and game engine streets ahead of anything else.

It's nice to see DT are still developing,but seem to have lost direction on what makes a simulator so special.

Daz

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