Wycombe and Joint Line

[black8]

Continuing on, and when approaching West Wycombe up platform the scenario stops abruptly with the message of an AI train derailment at Long -------- Lat ------------ ( sorry wasn't quick enough to catch it ) . Anyone completed this yet?
Antony

I got the AI train derailment (I think for Service 10) just after West Wycombe.
Dave

I got the derailment as well, indeed a few miles out of West Wycombe. The IA train derailing is Service 10 which performs a shunting & coupling action in High Wycombe North Yard sidings 6 and 4 Coal. There appears to be a destination instruction missing here after the coupling instruction in the timetable, so I added a destination instruction (hand with pointing finger symbol) for service 10 to move to 'High Wycombe North Yard' et voilà the derailment did not happen anymore when I re-ran the scenario. I am not at all an expert with timetables but I found it strange that there was no destination instruction for this service after the coupling instruction. Anyway it worked. In addition I found in the timetable view, when clicking on the errors symbol (little traffic sign with exclamation mark at the bottom), that 2 wagons had a duplicate number 141321. Duplicate numbers are possible causes of problems as well I heard, so I changed one of the wagon numbers (the one in Wheatley Siding 2 coal, I believe) to 141325 and the error disappeared. Last but not least, on my installation, the tenders of the Thompson B1 hauled Service 8 (the one overtaking you in Princes Risborough) and Service 1 were running with invisible tenders. I found out that the tenders used on these trains were missing the B1_Tender.GeoPcDx files, so after copy/pasting the one from the default B1 tender these trains now run with visible tenders.
Anyway, apparently a few errors slipped into this scenario. I am not sure which one, or perhaps a combination of errors, causes the derailment and perhaps also the invisible service 8. After the changes I made the approaching service 8 was now visible all the time when I re-ran the scenario.

Cheers
Jos

[Ajay1]

Continuing on, and when approaching West Wycombe up platform the scenario stops abruptly with the message of an AI train derailment at Long -------- Lat ------------ ( sorry wasn't quick enough to catch it ) . Anyone completed this yet?
Antony

I got the AI train derailment (I think for Service 10) just after West Wycombe.
Dave

I got the derailment as well, indeed a few miles out of West Wycombe. The IA train derailing is Service 10 which performs a shunting & coupling action in High Wycombe North Yard sidings 6 and 4 Coal. There appears to be a destination instruction missing here after the coupling instruction in the timetable, so I added a destination instruction (hand with pointing finger symbol) for service 10 to move to 'High Wycombe North Yard' et voilà the derailment did not happen anymore when I re-ran the scenario. I am not at all an expert with timetables but I found it strange that there was no destination instruction for this service after the coupling instruction. Anyway it worked. In addition I found in the timetable view, when clicking on the errors symbol (little traffic sign with exclamation mark at the bottom), that 2 wagons had a duplicate number 141321. Duplicate numbers are possible causes of problems as well I heard, so I changed one of the wagon numbers (the one in Wheatley Siding 2 coal, I believe) to 141325 and the error disappeared. Last but not least, on my installation, the tenders of the Thompson B1 hauled Service 8 (the one overtaking you in Princes Risborough) and Service 1 were running with invisible tenders. I found out that the tenders used on these trains were missing the B1_Tender.GeoPcDx files, so after copy/pasting the one from the default B1 tender these trains now run with visible tenders.
Anyway, apparently a few errors slipped into this scenario. I am not sure which one, or perhaps a combination of errors, causes the derailment and perhaps also the invisible service 8. After the changes I made the approaching service 8 was now visible all the time when I re-ran the scenario.

Cheers
Jos

Is that where the derailment is happening, I wasn't sure where ? I'm not confident enough to go about tinkering to fix it .I would need a step by step dummies guide before I attempt this, so will leave well alone until its updated again.

Antony.

[deltic1981]

Hi, do you mean the Manor pack?

Yes sorry the manor pack.

[black8]

Is that where the derailment is happening, I wasn't sure where ? I'm not confident enough to go about tinkering to fix it .I would need a step by step dummies guide before I attempt this, so will leave well alone until its updated again.
Antony.

You could give it a try, it's not that difficult. Here are some simple instructions:

- Open the scenario and go in World Editor

- In the editor go in the Timetable view.

- You will see a screen like this one: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/228 ... 1F557AAC0/

- Select service 10 at the top left, next to the engine driver's head (in the demo screen service 10 is already selected)
On the right you see the instructions for this train. You see only 2 instructions, the third is the one I added.

- Click on the hand with pointing finger at the top and it will add the third line with the same hand symbol.

- This line needs an instruction, so click on the hand symbol and you will see a window pop open that looks like this: http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/228 ... 80296D279/

- On the top line next to destination symbol (the blue cube with orange arrow) you can select a destination. Select 'High Wycombe North Yard' as I did.

- Close the pop up window (Click the X at the top right corner). Don't worry about the Arrival/Departure times in the new instruction line; the sim will calculate them for you. Close the Timetable editor window (click OK at bottom right). That's all.

- Next screen, click 'Drive' arrow bottom right corner and confirm save changes to the scenario. The scenario will start, and you can see if it works for you too now.

Have fun
Jos

[Ajay1]

Thanks for taking the time to explain how to do this Jos, will certainly give this a try but will wait until the weekend when I have a bit more time.

Antony

[davep]

Although I'd not driven this scenario, I thought I'd pre-empt the derailment so I went into the editor to do the above fix.
I was surprised to see I only had services 1-5 listed.
Ran the route anyway and all was okay.

[choccy]

There are two problems with this scenario that I have now fixed though haven't run it to completion to see if there are any further problems.
The first problem relates to service 10 which is set to take some trucks to HW North Yard Siding4 coal. Unfortunately there are already some wagons in this siding. You can either delete them or, as I did, move them to HW North Yard Siding 5 cattle.

The second probelm relates to Service 13 which has no path to its destination. This may be due to a tack probelm. All appears well in the scenario editor but when running the scenarion service 13 remains static and gets rammed in the rear by service 1. I've reprogrammed Service 13 to head to West Wycombe Down Platform to avoid this collision. If you want a simpler remedy you can just move the whole of service 13 forward so the consists clears the junction immediately behind it. In this case it will act as though it were a static consist.

Mark

[black8]

There are two problems with this scenario that I have now fixed though haven't run it to completion to see if there are any further problems.
The first problem relates to service 10 which is set to take some trucks to HW North Yard Siding4 coal. Unfortunately there are already some wagons in this siding. You can either delete them or, as I did, move them to HW North Yard Siding 5 cattle.

The second probelm relates to Service 13 which has no path to its destination. This may be due to a tack probelm. All appears well in the scenario editor but when running the scenarion service 13 remains static and gets rammed in the rear by service 1. I've reprogrammed Service 13 to head to West Wycombe Down Platform to avoid this collision. If you want a simpler remedy you can just move the whole of service 13 forward so the consists clears the junction immediately behind it. In this case it will act as though it were a static consist.

Mark

There are actually 4 problems with this scenario I think if I include the one you have with service 13, although I have not had this problem so far and I have finished this scenario a few times.

The other problems are the derailment of service 10, that I corrected as mentioned before. The duplicate wagon numbers as mentioned before and the non-coupling of the 6 wagons in HW North Yard Siding 4 coal. The 6 wagons in this siding are not just sitting there blocking service 10. According to the instructions for service 10, these wagons are supposed to be picked up and added to the 3 wagons already included in service 10; however, they do not couple up. I added the instruction for service 10 (with 3 wagons only) then to move to HW North Yard which at least solved the derailment issue.

Jos

[92212]

An update on progress with extending the Wycombe Railway and Joint Line

http://sssworkshop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... -line.html

[sean53]

Wow! On it's way to being a masterpiece

[pjt1974]

Wow! On it's way to being a masterpiece

I echo the sentiments, it's not just on it's way, it's very close to being.

[92212]

Peter presents a pictorial update as he makes progress on version 2 of the Wycombe Railway and Joint Line. Oxford is on the horizon!

http://sssworkshop.blogspot.co.uk/2015/ ... ilway.html

[august1929]

A wagon turntable - just what I need!

Beautiful modelling overall.

Rod

[sean53]

Droollll

[yerkes]

Superb! Very much looking forward to seeing Oxford modelled. If Peter keeps this up, I may have to shelve the Woodstock branch which I'm creating I couldn't better his work anyway.