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Crash to Desktop while just in the menus

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Hi,

I'm having a very annoying problem with TS2014, for some months now and I'm getting more and more fed up with it, and I would like to know if somebody else has a problem like this too...

See, TS2014 has begun to crash for me while I'm just in the menus. Once I start driving it is reasonably stable, although there too, crashing much more than it used to about half a year ago - some routes appear unplayable nowadays that I could enjoy quite a lot still before.

That is very disappointing of course, but what really drives me crazy now is that after starting the game, it crashed within about 1 - 2 minutes when I'm still in the menus. Wether I am selecting something to drive, or just leaving it idle - it always crashes after I spend a minute or two in the menu system.

Anyone else who has a similar issue???

DTG support so far has not been helpful, saying it could depend on content installed.

Well I have now wiped all TS2014 of my drive and cleanly re-installed it with only my Steam purchased content and it still happens, so it's not a problem with some corrupt file from 3d party.

LogMate hasn't given me a lot of info either:
[RunTimeError 12:57:50] Trace mdump.cpp : 316 = error handlers have been set
[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 417 = Blueprint set not found : Kuju, RailSimulatorCore
[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 448 = Blueprint set not found for: Cameras\EditCamera001.xml
For the record, I have a low-end system with 2GB of RAM, Win7 Ultimate, and an Nvidia GTS250 graphics card with 1GB or RAM.

I'm aware it's not quite the best system, but it should be just above the game's minimum specs and runs most routes with acceptable (for me) performance (even if not with best graphics).

Cheers,

--Tim
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Just got the same today using a separate Routes folder for US route - no issues with main Routes folder. Must be an issue with one of the routes so will have to move them in one at a time to se which. You could see if that is your issue by creating a new routes folder and moving in one or 2 routes at a time.
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You could buy some more RAM for your system - not that expensive.
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Thanks for your reply.

I have tried to remove practically all DLC except for 2 routes and the legacy UK, USA etc "classic" packs, no difference. I have removed those 2 routes too, installed instead Ruhr-Sieg, no difference.

Disabled in-game Steam overlay, no difference.

Just a crash, no dump-file, no error-popup.

I've noticed that after every crash, Steam itself also needs to restart, but Steam itself seems stable enough, there's no issues in Skyrim.

Anyway, I will keep trying some more things, and hope that eventually DTG can offer some help...

Any more pointers would of course be appreciated! :-)
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749006 wrote:You could buy some more RAM for your system - not that expensive.
Yes, I really should do that. I should figure out the right type of RAM, and just order some. It should help with many things already, like not crashing so much in so many routes. But somehow I wonder if it will help with this particular issue... :(
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tnleeuw01 wrote:
749006 wrote:You could buy some more RAM for your system - not that expensive.
Yes, I really should do that. I should figure out the right type of RAM, and just order some. It should help with many things already, like not crashing so much in so many routes. But somehow I wonder if it will help with this particular issue... :(
I noticed in your first post "[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 417 = Blueprint set not found : Kuju, RailSimulatorCore"
Have you done a File Verify - it might be not loading because of missing files.

Having reinstalled it might still have some files missing so doing a Verify, and at least twice until it reports no missing files.
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I agree do a verify also try changing the screen resolution down to a notch or two having it max on your screen resolution can sometimes cause it problems also. To find out what type of ram you have download a free program called Speccy it tells you everything about your system and what type of hardware is installed should help you get ram. word of advice always match the ram you have with any new ones you purchase to avoid any further problems.
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rosschris10 wrote:I agree do a verify also try changing the screen resolution down to a notch or two having it max on your screen resolution can sometimes cause it problems also. To find out what type of ram you have download a free program called Speccy it tells you everything about your system and what type of hardware is installed should help you get ram. word of advice always match the ram you have with any new ones you purchase to avoid any further problems.
I would be tempted to say remove the Ram you have and replace it with more memory - no mismatch then.
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tnleeuw01 wrote:LogMate hasn't given me a lot of info either:
[RunTimeError 12:57:50] Trace mdump.cpp : 316 = error handlers have been set
[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 417 = Blueprint set not found : Kuju, RailSimulatorCore
[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 448 = Blueprint set not found for: Cameras\EditCamera001.xml
There are a few posts knocking about reporting this error, but I'm beginning to suspect that we've all swallowed a Red Herring---having run logmate a few times myself to see if I could glean some insight into the various woes folk are having I too see this *error* generated; both on a 'straight off the Steam servers and untouched' copy as well as my heavily 'tweaked' playing copy.
If someone else who isn't having bother could run logmate and load a scenariuo to corroborate this it would indicate that we can ignore it.
Further to this, if the *error* is shown at the beginning of the logmate report and the reporting carries on it's not a fatal error; usually the last dozen or so lines from logmate are the ones that give a clue as to what is going on before it crashes.

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749006 wrote:
rosschris10 wrote:I agree do a verify also try changing the screen resolution down to a notch or two having it max on your screen resolution can sometimes cause it problems also. To find out what type of ram you have download a free program called Speccy it tells you everything about your system and what type of hardware is installed should help you get ram. word of advice always match the ram you have with any new ones you purchase to avoid any further problems.
I would be tempted to say remove the Ram you have and replace it with more memory - no mismatch then.
Exactly what I would be doing - also, I don't believe I have free slots, I just need to take out the 1GB modules and put back two matching 2GB modules. :-)
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749006 wrote:
tnleeuw01 wrote:
749006 wrote:You could buy some more RAM for your system - not that expensive.
Yes, I really should do that. I should figure out the right type of RAM, and just order some. It should help with many things already, like not crashing so much in so many routes. But somehow I wonder if it will help with this particular issue... :(
I noticed in your first post "[Content 12:58:01] Trace cBlueprintLibrary.cpp : 417 = Blueprint set not found : Kuju, RailSimulatorCore"
Have you done a File Verify - it might be not loading because of missing files.

Having reinstalled it might still have some files missing so doing a Verify, and at least twice until it reports no missing files.
Repeated verification didn't make a difference. Neither did lowering resolution.

I'll have to live with this for now and hope that after installing more RAM things might be better - perhaps it might also help if I do a completely clean and fresh install of Windows.

Thanks for all the advice, people!

Cheers,

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tnleeuw01 wrote:
749006 wrote:You could buy some more RAM for your system - not that expensive.
Yes, I really should do that. I should figure out the right type of RAM, and just order some. It should help with many things already, like not crashing so much in so many routes. But somehow I wonder if it will help with this particular issue... :(
This site will help you find the right memory modules http://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en?gclid=CIHB ... 29220359:s - I never buy memory from anywhere else.
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As we all like spending somebody else's money..... I'd recommend giving serious thought about upgrading or even replacing the whole machine; whilst that's much more expensive than a couple of memory modules you have to ask whether spending on an *old* machine is cost effective. More RAM could well be the start of an ongoing expense, the next thing to be suggested would be to replace your aging DDR3 graphics card with something newer that uses DDR5 VRAM chips..... and then somebody would suggest you replaced the CPU with something faster... and so on.

If you posted your full system specs that'd start a nice lively debate over what is worthwhile :)
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tnleeuw01 wrote:I have tried to remove practically all DLC except for 2 routes and the legacy UK, USA etc "classic" packs, no difference. I have removed those 2 routes too, installed instead Ruhr-Sieg, no difference.

Disabled in-game Steam overlay, no difference.
So, that was not it then! My guess would be that getting rid of the blueprint.pak files or a verify might be useful.
Just a crash, no dump-file, no error-popup.
It sounds a bit like a shutdown rather than a crash. It that case, check settings of the GPU and monitor GPU temperature, while running in windowed mode. If the GPU runs warm it is time to clean to inside of the PC especially cooling fins and fans.
I've noticed that after every crash, Steam itself also needs to restart, but Steam itself seems stable enough, there's no issues in Skyrim.
As you would expect after an overheat shutdown of a graphics application like TS2014. No smiley here!
Anyway, I will keep trying some more things, and hope that eventually DTG can offer some help...

Any more pointers would of course be appreciated! :-)
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Yes that logmate error doesn't mean anything. See my posts in the update thread. I was getting the same logmate message when TS2014 wouldn't start after the 19ths update. If you can you could do what I did and put a second HD in your computer and put Steam and TS2014 on that.
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