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Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:58 am
by Juanillo99
xguerra wrote:I've been through about 20 different 3rd party lua decoder software applications and none of them would do it.
So it seems that DTG are the only people who could make this alteration.
Did you look
here?
You should look in the "Assembler / Disassembler / Bytecodes" section.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:59 am
by xguerra
Juanillo99 wrote:xguerra wrote:I've been through about 20 different 3rd party lua decoder software applications and none of them would do it.
So it seems that DTG are the only people who could make this alteration.
Did you look
here?
You should look in the "Assembler / Disassembler / Bytecodes" section.
Yep, tried all of those.
I have sent an email to DTG about this, with a calm and peaceful manner, but very much doubt I'll get a response.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:07 am
by Juanillo99
xguerra wrote:Juanillo99 wrote:xguerra wrote:I've been through about 20 different 3rd party lua decoder software applications and none of them would do it.
So it seems that DTG are the only people who could make this alteration.
Did you look
here?
You should look in the "Assembler / Disassembler / Bytecodes" section.
Yep, tried all of those.
Then (unfortunately) there is nothing we can do.
DTG has probably used some compiler of own creation.
xguerra wrote:I have sent an email to DTG about this, with a calm and peaceful manner, but very much doubt I'll get a response.
I doubt it too.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:36 am
by swtcn91
I think a petition is in order. They're supposed to be encouraging creativity and improvement, but at the moment, they seem to be doing the opposite.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:43 am
by Mr395008
swtcn91 wrote:I think a petition is in order. They're supposed to be encouraging creativity and improvement, but at the moment, they seem to be doing the opposite.
I'm not DTG biggest fan, however the Class 319 is a massive improvement compared to any other DLC they have released. What exactly do you mean when you say they seem to be doing the opposite?
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:23 am
by ProRail
My experience with DTG is not one of the best. I contacted them a few times regarding the development of community funded projects and never had a reply. They don't even take the time to write a reply that they received the ideas and I should hear their verdict in xxx days/weeks.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:23 pm
by swtcn91
Mr395008 wrote:swtcn91 wrote:I think a petition is in order. They're supposed to be encouraging creativity and improvement, but at the moment, they seem to be doing the opposite.
I'm not DTG biggest fan, however the Class 319 is a massive improvement compared to any other DLC they have released. What exactly do you mean when you say they seem to be doing the opposite?
By using closed .out files. Everything else is accessible.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:32 pm
by rfletcher72
swtcn91 wrote:By using closed .out files. Everything else is accessible.
I understand that the sim can process a script file in .out format quicker and easier than one in .lua format.
If you are suggesting that DTG are keeping their 'cards close to their chest' on the features scripted within the .out file by using that format, then do not be surprised by that - 99% of the firms out there in any field of business will do that to remain one step ahead of their competitors.
Part of the fun for me is working out (with others help sometimes) how to get around such things.
I believe programs exist out there that can decompile an .out file, but the consensus I have picked up on is that these are unreliable.
Regards,
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:57 pm
by thetrainfan
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:04 pm
by Juanillo99
rfletcher72 wrote:I believe programs exist out there that can decompile an .out file, but the consensus I have picked up on is that these are unreliable.
They do not work →
http://forums.uktrainsim.com/viewtopic. ... 1#p1696001
But if you know any other program which is not quoted
here, we will appreciate if you could tell us.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:53 pm
by 749006
Juanillo99 wrote:rfletcher72 wrote:I believe programs exist out there that can decompile an .out file, but the consensus I have picked up on is that these are unreliable.
They do not work.
RSC/DTG are going to be in a pickle if they cannot decompile an .OUT file

Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 5:58 pm
by DaveDewhurst
749006 wrote:RSC/DTG are going to be in a pickle if they cannot decompile an .OUT file

why would they need to?
Dave
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:05 pm
by ChrisBarnes
749006 wrote:Juanillo99 wrote:rfletcher72 wrote:I believe programs exist out there that can decompile an .out file, but the consensus I have picked up on is that these are unreliable.
They do not work.
RSC/DTG are going to be in a pickle if they cannot decompile an .OUT file

As holders of the source files, DTG wouldn't need to decompile their own compiled scripts, as Dave says. One of the reasons most scripts included are compiled is that the code is not open source, particularly as the script is now as much a part of overall product as the model and sounds.
Chris
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 6:08 pm
by david1
Mr395008 wrote:I'm not DTG biggest fan, however the Class 319 is a massive improvement compared to any other DLC they have released. What exactly do you mean when you say they seem to be doing the opposite?
It would seem that DTG are not interested, the sim is for anyone to build routes, rolling stock and scenarios so why have they built a duel voltage unit that in real life can use either overhead or 3rd rail pick so why not model it on just that, just because they have no plans to build a route that would use this they have penelised anyone else from building such route for these units to run on, i.e East Croydon to Bedford, although the 377 would work on this not everyone wants to run modern day scenarios, time periods are different to different people.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:38 pm
by kityatyi
XGUERRA - is there a way I could send you a PM please?
Cheers!