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Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:34 pm
by callum1122334455
I'm also getting no AWS sounds on clear signals.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:11 pm
by xguerra
Now here's a sight I can finally recreate.
The class 319 passing Kings Cross Thameslink on my ill-fated Thameslink route.
The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:43 pm
by smarty2
Same sounds as the 455 then.

Think I will wait for the other one.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:19 pm
by callum1122334455
Not sure if the other 319 is in development anymore.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:15 pm
by bradleigh20
If there was no AWS issue, I would say that this is the best add on DTG have brought out for a while. The sounds are "ok" just needs running sounds and those hideous track joint sounds to be replaced. As mentioned, the Class 325 has the same traction motor sounds so hopefully AP will modify them sounds to run with the Class 319.
The cab is very well detailed, quite a nice train to drive I must admit!
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:29 pm
by 749006
xguerra wrote:Now here's a sight I can finally recreate.
The class 319 passing Kings Cross Thameslink on my ill-fated Thameslink route.
The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
I suppose as there is no route from RSC/DTG for them to use both DC & AC it's easier for them to model the unit in two versions - like the 325.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:40 pm
by swtcn91
749006 wrote:xguerra wrote:Now here's a sight I can finally recreate.
The class 319 passing Kings Cross Thameslink on my ill-fated Thameslink route.
The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
I suppose as there is no route from RSC/DTG for them to use both DC & AC it's easier for them to model the unit in two versions - like the 325.
It has been done before very recently with the 92.
Surely it isn't too much of a job to implement it?
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:05 pm
by 749006
swtcn91 wrote:749006 wrote:I suppose as there is no route from RSC/DTG for them to use both DC & AC it's easier for them to model the unit in two versions - like the 325.
It has been done before very recently with the 92.
Surely it isn't too much of a job to implement it?
The recent article on the Engine Driver Page indicates a lot of work involved
http://www.engine-driver.com/article/sh ... -simulator
And if you did have dual voltage which commercial route would you run it on?
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:45 pm
by xguerra
749006 wrote:swtcn91 wrote:749006 wrote:I suppose as there is no route from RSC/DTG for them to use both DC & AC it's easier for them to model the unit in two versions - like the 325.
It has been done before very recently with the 92.
Surely it isn't too much of a job to implement it?
The recent article on the Engine Driver Page indicates a lot of work involved
http://www.engine-driver.com/article/sh ... -simulator
And if you did have dual voltage which commercial route would you run it on?
None, but it would make my Thameslink more playable with the 319, and would set up for a possible Midland Main Line DLC where someone like me could come and do a "Farringdon Extension" (like was done with MSTS).
A virtual AC/DC switchover was done with the 325 in the 325 enhancement pack by Kariban, unfortunately the replication of that in the 319 is beyond my expertise.
EDIT: Having read the .bin files from end to end, it doesn't seem to be anything in there, nor in the simulation files. The control could be in the MOS script file, which is a .out file, and I'm not sure how they can be opened in an editable format.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:17 pm
by JasVick
*** CURE FOR AWS CLEAR SOUND ***!
Hi folks,
I've just cured the AWS clear fault - its an error in the cab .proxybin file, for those of you who can edit bin files its an easy change - look for the area that sets the sounds-
<kLoud-cTriggeredOneshot d:id="22090">
<PlayState d:type="cDeltaString">INSIDE</PlayState>
<Name d:type="cDeltaString">AWS Flower</Name>
<Sound d:type="ref">21639</Sound>
<ModifierChain d:type="ref">0</ModifierChain>
<ControllerName d:type="cDeltaString
">AWSClearCount</ControllerName>
<TriggerType d:type="cDeltaString
">ValueIsChanging</TriggerType>
<TriggerValue d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="00000040E17A843F" d:precision="string">0.01</TriggerValue>
<ValueIsChangingGateTime d:type="sFloat32" d:alt_encoding="0000000000000000" d:precision="string">0</ValueIsChangingGateTime>
<InstanceGroup d:type="ref">0</InstanceGroup>
</kLoud-cTriggeredOneshot>
You will need to edit it so that it reads as the bits that I have underlined and bolded say, save/recreate the .ap file, delete the blueprint and it should now work every time.
Don't forget to drag the proxybin file through serz to update the xml file.....

Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:25 pm
by david1
xguerra wrote:The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
You should be able to drive the whole route as TS2014 does not know the difference between 3rd rail and overhead, as long as it is set to electric it should work as I can run 3rd rail units over say WCML as I had a scenario for the Cresston route where I used 415 units and they worked fine under the wires, just will not be able to change over from DC to AC by raising the shoes and pantagraph, which is a shame as it would add realism to it.
I take it that there is no switch on the 319 to be able to change like in real life then, as the class 92 comes as either an AC or DC version but can be changed en-route
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:50 pm
by 37114
xguerra wrote:Now here's a sight I can finally recreate.
The class 319 passing Kings Cross Thameslink on my ill-fated Thameslink route.
The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
Can it switch from AC to DC when stationary? If so that's as per the real thing. I'm ex West Hampstead PSB they switch over power at Farringdon
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:22 am
by joethefish
The class 319 is a pleasure to drive. It has many functions that RSC don't always do. Headlights are correctly switchable, window blinds work, sperate window wipers, cab lights work and the fan works. You can disable DSD if you wish (Ctrl+D) and the pedal is also animated. The model looks quite good (you know it's a 319). The passenger view is amazing, best one I've seen since the class 395 (that was over a year ago), it has window reflections, safety posters, hand rail poles, announcement speakers on the celling, even a book left on the seat! The doors are animated correctly (they beep before they close and take their time). The sounds, class 455 original sounds on the pantograph coach and the others are quiet. The horn is from the class 170/171. All in-cab features have sounds (except the fan). The scenarios are quite basic.
The problems include, AWS (we all know that by now) and on steam and the website it states that the cab windows open but they don't seem to.
Overall:
Features: 9/10
Model: 7/10
Passenger view: 9/10
Sounds: 4/10
Scenarios: 3/10
FCC Class 319: 7/10
I personally really like this train, a great and very welcome addition to the game.
Joe

Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:22 am
by xguerra
37114 wrote:xguerra wrote:Now here's a sight I can finally recreate.
The class 319 passing Kings Cross Thameslink on my ill-fated Thameslink route.
The big irritation for me is that they've made the AC and DC separate, which means they're not interchangeable en route. So with the AC version I can't go any further than Farringdon, and the same the other way round.
Can it switch from AC to DC when stationary? If so that's as per the real thing. I'm ex West Hampstead PSB they switch over power at Farringdon
No, that's the point. The fact that the AC and DC is in separate models means it can't be changed at Farringdon.
Re: First Capital Connect Class319
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:00 am
by smarty2
callum1122334455 wrote:Not sure if the other 319 is in development anymore.
I thought AP/waggonz were producing one?