Class 92 on sale

[davejc64]

Am I allowed to say I have bought the 92 and that I am happy with it?

[yyyyamst]

I certainly would be up for doing some 92 Charters. Although would love to see some Nightstar Stock. Although never used in the UK. Would give some interesting What if Scenarios.

Chris

That's great to hear Chris. I don't think many people are actually seeing the real potential of this Loco at the moment! On the West Coast we are working with silly Train Lengths to max out the capacity of these machines. Car Traffic is a big feature at night heading north. These services also have reserved capacity for dead hauled Class 67s and 92s heading from Mossend to Arpley/Crewe ETD. Don't forget DB also ran test Trains for HTA Coal services. Driver Training for Class 92s was regular starting at Crewe Sth Yard to Kingmoor with Postal Stock. The Charter side really is a license to explore.

[jp4712]

Am I allowed to say I have bought the 92 and that I am happy with it?

+1

Paul

PS thanks yyyyamst for the hint about car carriers at night, I feel a combo of the 92 and Just Trains car carriers coming on...

[220389]

I certainly would be up for doing some 92 Charters. Although would love to see some Nightstar Stock. Although never used in the UK. Would give some interesting What if Scenarios.

Chris

That's great to hear Chris. I don't think many people are actually seeing the real potential of this Loco at the moment! On the West Coast we are working with silly Train Lengths to max out the capacity of these machines. Car Traffic is a big feature at night heading north. These services also have reserved capacity for dead hauled Class 67s and 92s heading from Mossend to Arpley/Crewe ETD. Don't forget DB also ran test Trains for HTA Coal services. Driver Training for Class 92s was regular starting at Crewe Sth Yard to Kingmoor with Postal Stock. The Charter side really is a license to explore.

I love license to explore stuff myself. That is what most my scenarios are (Well for AI mostly) Will take a look into doing it though of course.

Chris

[yyyyamst]

Am I allowed to say I have bought the 92 and that I am happy with it?

Good to hear Dave, it is a good package but just needs tweaking.
Enjoy

[yyyyamst]

Chris I am actually just in the plan stage of putting together a Driver Training run from Crewe to Kingmoor. I'm going to try and use Passenger or ex Postal Stock which can then be run at 87mph! These Locos have some little tricks which Drivers find really annoying. They are fitted with a device called a DLFM Monitor which monitors all Loco systems for spikes in the Electrics. When detected, power goes off immediately and a big red FAP (fault reset button ) illuminates. The Annunciator screen shows a message to indicate the problem. In frosty weather with Ice on the overheads it triggers relentless!!!!!

[rfletcher72]

Chris I am actually just in the plan stage of putting together a Driver Training run from Crewe to Kingmoor. I'm going to try and use Passenger or ex Postal Stock which can then be run at 87mph

I have a Crewe test train on the boil. Not sure when it will be ready for release.

Regards,

[deltic009]

It wasn't meant to be funny, it was my sarcastic reaction to how scary some of the reactions some people can have to a computer game add-on.

I thought as much but refuse to bite. Hence the very funny. It doesn't matter if it's a computer game add-on or any other consumer product. You expect a certain quality for handing over your money and people have every right to complain if they feel a product is not worthy of their money. If you're happy that's fine. There are many that are not and their opinion is just as valid as yours.

I didn't say you aren't entitled to be disappointed but saying it is a disgrace and that you feel you've been mugged? There is just no need for it, mugging is a violent crime for heavens sake! I don't have the loco, I didn't say it was fantastic, but your over the top hyperbole doesn't actually make reference to anything, any deficiencies, missing items, good points - nothing, just a short line of bluster.

[spellow3010]

Haven't bought this yet... and I am currently on the fence and will probably wait until my next pay day depending on any other reviews coming in.

In terms of scenario development, pretty sure I went on a railtour in the late 1990s with 92015 at the front out of Victoria which featured Mark 1 stock. I think it had another loco (Class 47 probably) between the 92 and the stock.

I also have a photo of a Class 92 on the Auto Ballaster at Rugby from about 2002/2003. It was the Railtrack branded one as evident in a JT wagon pack I think... As an old signalman, I've never been a fan of electric locos on engineers traffic... Kind of an easy target for wrong-routing a train off the wire or into an isolated section and earning a telling off. The rule book/instructions did permit electic trains up to the limiting point of an isolation, but I always thought it seemed like a needless trap for all involved at the time.

And Yyyyaamst - fully concur with you about frost on the overhead wires. As I wrote previously, I did a morning shift at Watford PSB once and it took a Class 92 over an hour to get from Bushey to Watford Tunnel as a result... In the morning peak as well. Deep regulating joy around that!!

--
I love the presumption that AP will do a sound pack for this... Richard is Mr Reliable in that sense - and should continue to feel great pride that so many people hold him and his business in such high regard. Hopefully AP will do the bizz, including some nice imaginitive scenarios that are also a key trademark of the brand that is AP.

[yyyyamst]

And Yyyyaamst - fully concur with you about frost on the overhead wires. As I wrote previously, I did a morning shift at Watford PSB once and it took a Class 92 over an hour to get from Bushey to Watford Tunnel as a result... In the morning peak as well. Deep regulating joy around that!!

--
I love the presumption that AP will do a sound pack for this... Richard is Mr Reliable in that sense - and should continue to feel great pride that so many people hold him and his business in such high regard. Hopefully AP will do the bizz, including some nice imaginitive scenarios that are also a key trademark of the brand that is AP.

I remember reading your comment. Great Loco but hard to believe a small safety device can cause so many Headaches. From a driving point of view you cannot do anything to improve the reoccurring syndrome other than slightly reduce the power being drawn from the Overheads. I believe it's now the order to run Ice breakers to keep the Contact Wire Ice free?

[37114]

It wasn't meant to be funny, it was my sarcastic reaction to how scary some of the reactions some people can have to a computer game add-on.

I thought as much but refuse to bite. Hence the very funny. It doesn't matter if it's a computer game add-on or any other consumer product. You expect a certain quality for handing over your money and people have every right to complain if they feel a product is not worthy of their money. If you're happy that's fine. There are many that are not and their opinion is just as valid as yours.

I didn't say you aren't entitled to be disappointed but saying it is a disgrace and that you feel you've been mugged? There is just no need for it, mugging is a violent crime for heavens sake! I don't have the loco, I didn't say it was fantastic, but your over the top hyperbole doesn't actually make reference to anything, any deficiencies, missing items, good points - nothing, just a short line of bluster.

I was being sarcastic.

[david1]

I have bit the bullet and bought the 92 at full price, first impressions are quite favourable nice amount of features compared with other DTG realeases, build and graphics look very good and comes with continental freightliner flats and a couple of loads with wrong wording buts that's down to licensing I am sure the many talented re-skinners will put these right. The only disappointment is the reuse of the class 91 sounds, which don't sound anything like a class 92, another fiver to Mr Armstrong when he works his magic on this loco will make it top notch.

[theorganist]

Am I allowed to say I have bought the 92 and that I am happy with it?

Probably not!

Personally I have worked out which posters provide detailed and unbiased reviews and which posters merely post a "review" to have a rant! Unfortunately there are not too many of the former!

Peter

[jimmyshand]

I love the presumption that AP will do a sound pack for this... Richard is Mr Reliable in that sense - and should continue to feel great pride that so many people hold him and his business in such high regard. Hopefully AP will do the bizz, including some nice imaginitive scenarios that are also a key trademark of the brand that is AP.

This is a great line and eloquently points out why there is rarely a cross word ever made against AP. There are people who post on here who are completely baffled as to why RSC come in for such critical reviews. Spellows quote above spells out the reason.

Brands and reputations are now firmly established in the commercial world of Railworks. AP have a well deserved reputation for outstanding quality and attention to detail. You know when you buy AP that you're guaranteed the best possible product that will push the limits of the technology and the status quo. Sadly RSC don't share that reputation as they've built up an expectation level where customers know there will be something be missing, wrong or shortcuts taken. Time and time again with each new piece of rolling stock they further cement that reputation. You know you've got a bad reputation when nobody is even surprised anymore when there is something wrong or sub-standard. We all expect it now.

However, on the flip side, RSC do have a polar opposite reputation when it comes to route building. Not many people hesitate in buying an RSC route. They just need to transfer their route building excellence into their rolling stock department.

[jimmyshand]

Am I allowed to say I have bought the 92 and that I am happy with it?

Probably not!

Personally I have worked out which posters provide detailed and unbiased reviews and which posters merely post a "review" to have a rant! Unfortunately there are not too many of the former!

Peter

That theory also works both ways and personally I've worked out which posters will always declare every RSC product to be a masterpiece.