Class 92 on sale

[yyyyamst]

Yyyyamst,
I am usually pretty good at remembering to do a running brake test when I take control of a train at the start of a scenario, upon changing ends or after attaching/detaching (my collision experience in real life at Walton on the Naze on a Class 58 tour lives long in the memory) etc. Is there a minimum speed at which a running brake test must be undertaken? The reason I ask is that upon starting the Electric Troubles scenario, the first few minutes of movement are out of the yard at 5mph for some distance. Though I did a running brake test, it seemed of little value at 5mph...

Also, is there a minimum speed reduction to aim for when doing a running brake test? I normally aim for a 10% speed reduction but not sure what would be expected prototypically. What are you watching when you do a running brake test? Are you watching the speedo, the brake gauges or just getting a feel for the train? Or maybe all three at once?

Anyone proclaiming that men cannot multi-task is lying... We just choose not to a lot of the time to make the 'others' feel good

The current Rule Book does give some stipulations regarding when to carry out a Running Brake Test but no speed is quoted. It really does come down partially to the Driver making this a high priority and complete ASAP. Regarding the speed it is a case of "suitable " speed high enough to be able to asses the Brake. Personally I always push the speed up to about 40mph and then drop the Brake to Initial /First application and then down to 4 Bar. As soon as the Brake feels like it's starting to overcome the speed I will then fully release. The retardation will still be felt and this is a key part of the test. You should be able to plan your Braking Curves from this point on. Some times a Running Brake Test can knock a very high percentage of speed out of the Train ( Wagon types) and you may end up with a drop of speed down to 10 or 20 mph. This does not matter at all, you have established your braking capability.

[rfletcher72]

Yyyyamst,

I note your previous mention of the long length of the overnight automotive workings that these loco's currently undertake, which brings me to ponder something I have wondered for a while and you seem the best guy to answer my question.

I often see references in WTT's to the term 'SLU' when mentioning the length of trains. I believe that this stands for 'Standard Length Unit'?. But in layman's terms, how long is an SLU? For example, a traditional 4 set Freightliner consist (20 FFA/FGA flats), how many SLU's would this roughly equate to?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered,

Kindest Regards,

[bristolian]

Yyyyamst,

I note your previous mention of the long length of the overnight automotive workings that these loco's currently undertake, which brings me to ponder something I have wondered for a while and you seem the best guy to answer my question.

I often see references in WTT's to the term 'SLU' when mentioning the length of trains. I believe that this stands for 'Standard Length Unit'?. But in layman's terms, how long is an SLU? For example, a traditional 4 set Freightliner consist (20 FFA/FGA flats), how many SLU's would this roughly equate to?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered,

Kindest Regards,

Hello,

An SLU was 21 feet or 7 yards, a measure used to establish train length and capacity of loops and sidings.

Very Best Wishes,
Bob.

[Springer6]

gptech

"Replacement (or rather additiuonal, as it lives outside of the .ap and doesn't need the original file deleting) file at:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/713 ... F_Logo.zip

Simply extract the contents of the .zip into your RailWorks folder, and away you go; any class 92's that are numbered 92xxxxxxY will now show the SNCF branding."

Thanks very much for posting this gptech, now we can replicate this with this ( both still have the "Crewe diamond" ):

[yyyyamst]

I note your previous mention of the long length of the overnight automotive workings that these loco's currently undertake, which brings me to ponder something I have wondered for a while and you seem the best guy to answer my question.

I often see references in WTT's to the term 'SLU' when mentioning the length of trains. I believe that this stands for 'Standard Length Unit'?. But in layman's terms, how long is an SLU? For example, a traditional 4 set Freightliner consist (20 FFA/FGA flats), how many SLU's would this roughly equate to?

Thanks in advance for any advice offered,

Kindest Regards,

Not certain about the actual SLU this would generate. Bob has given the method of calculation for manual assessment which should give you a rough idea. Freightliner give out Wagon Fleet details on the official site but not certain if lengths are given in Feet/Mtrs. The TOPS system will give a far more accurate length for what you need, maybe someone on the Forum can obtain this information for you?

[spellow3010]

I've looked on TOPS/TRUST for you guys and passing my office window now is Freightliner 4M86 0313 Felixstowe to Lawley Street (Brum). Difficult to see it through the fog to be honest, but this is what is shown on the computer...

66501 + 24 intermodal wagons of FEA/KFA/FLA/FSA (23 of which were loaded). Pretty standard intermodal wagons really.

The total train length is shown as 1654 feet in length... or 504 metres.

Class 66 is 70 feet in length or 21 metres.

That means, the length of the train minus the loco is 1584 feet or 483 metres - a trailing load (accounting for containers carried) of 1093 tonnes...

I see nothing on the TRUST/TOPS screen that auto converts this to SLU.

[yyyyamst]

Thanks spello3010 nice piece of detective work.
1654 feet = 79 SLU (Rounded up). Add another 3SLU for a single Loco, which gives a total of 82 SLU.

[749006]

Next up, 92001. Unfortunately the diamond logo cannot be removed. It is part of the main mesh.

I had a slight problem with the 92001(DC) version where various Black numbers appear on the bodyside and front.
Not even sure whay a DC version exists as it is set as an AC version when you enter the cab.

[gptech]

I had a slight problem with the 92001(DC) version where various Black numbers appear on the bodyside and front.

That'll be because it's looking in the wrong place for the textures, or that the textures don't exist. Drop in to scenario editor and double click the loco, see if changing the number to 92001VVVV sorts it.

[JasVick]

SLU does refer to standard length units, its a reference that is used to determine a length of a train as a fixed number. If you read through a sectional appendix for any region, this is given to represent the length of trains that can be accommodated in various sidings and loops. Due to the vast number of wagons on the network, this system was devised as a standard that could be more easily recognised. Details of train maximum SLUs do appear in freight WTTS and the freight detail sections of the sectional appendix, although this is only usually quoted as a maximum to help locate which loop and siding lines can be used.

The DC version of the 92 exists as they can and do run still as far as I am aware on the southern DC lines in DC mode, having recent memories of them through Wandsworth Road.

[gptech]

Just to take us back to number textures....anybody have a use for a set of white numbers?



Downside is that the digits on the front are also white, but life is full of compromises

[749006]

The DC version of the 92 exists as they can and do run still as far as I am aware on the southern DC lines in DC mode, having recent memories of them through Wandsworth Road.

My reason for questioning the (DC) Suffix is that both versions seem the same.
Place the loco with out the suffix on the track - enter the cab and it's in AC mode. Place the loco with the (DC) Suffix on the track and it's still in AC mode.

Maybe it's for running the loco as AI?

Peter

[749006]

I had a slight problem with the 92001(DC) version where various Black numbers appear on the bodyside and front.

That'll be because it's looking in the wrong place for the textures, or that the textures don't exist. Drop in to scenario editor and double click the loco, see if changing the number to 92001VVVV sorts it.

Thanks. I will try that.

Peter

[gptech]

My reason for questioning the (DC) Suffix is that both versions seem the same.
Place the loco with out the suffix on the track - enter the cab and it's in AC mode. Place the loco with the (DC) Suffix on the track and it's still in AC mode.

The most obvious reason would be to call for different simulation files, but this doesn't seem to be the case so it does appear that the duplication is unnecessary.

EDIT: The DC version, if a driver is assigned to it, has the panto down when a scenario loads. Other than that I can find no difference between the two variants.

[749006]

There are reports on another Steam forum that the Wheels don't go round

I have not had a chance to check this but has anyone else found this problem ?

Peter