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Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:06 pm
by Mr395008
Oh yes, how odd. It definitely disables it as I've tested it.
I'm assuming that this was a last minute change considering the amount of people who were unhappy with the fact we couldn't disable it in the 91.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:25 pm
by 37114
rfletcher72 wrote:deltic009 wrote:the ECML-S in particular bothers me as we now have 321, 365, 91 and HSTs which along with the 66s makes it pretty much complete in terms of prototypical traction. Just need the 180
Matthew, don't forget the 313.
If all seems OK, I will look to purchase the 92 in the next few days - it is the wagons that primarily interest me (loco a close second)

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Regards,
And the 317. Yes I know there is the freeware one but you can't use that in the workshop.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:30 pm
by firetrap1
jimmyshand wrote:Mr395008 wrote: however the sounds for the 92 aren't amazing. I'm pretty sure they've been recycled, the horn is the same horn from the 67?
This is a show stopper for me. I can't keep forgiving RSC for producing poor soundsets. AP have set the industry standard and that's what new products will be judged against. In the early days of the sim we could do without running sounds, decent track joint sounds, 2-tone horns, accurate engine/motor sounds etc because poor sounds were all that existed and we didn't know any better. We now know perfect sounds are possible and achievable by a one man band so there's no excuse for the powerhouse of RSC for not upping their game in the sound department.
I caved in on the class 91 because I'm a sucker for the Intercity era, but I absolutely won't be buying the 92 until such time as a decent soundpack becomes available or it goes to at least 50% off in a sale.
I agree
The model, cab, and livery all look top notch, but the sounds... well the sounds are just awful!
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 1:36 pm
by johnmckenzie
What about the livery, guys? I see both triple grey and EWS patched liveries on facebook, are both styles included / configurable?
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:14 pm
by dp123
Sale item for me, or unless AP do a sound set for it.
Those sounds in the video sound awful. Nothing like a 92. It sounds like a 91 with a 67 horn. Absolutely dreadful effort there.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:23 pm
by Crundles
Odd, I had a look at the DLC page today but didn't see this.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:28 pm
by firetrap1
Both are included and are of very high quality. I was having a lot of issues with getting the loco to move initially also, as the tutorials were quite useless and didn't explain how to set the loco up in full. It turns out that you need to set the OLE equipment up using the knob (which looks like a bath tap), then you need to set it/close the circuits by pressing the red button in the center.
As I said before the sounds aren't great, infact they are all reused from the class 91. The loco is only supplied with two loaded varients of intermodal waggons and as far as I could tell, the speed set doesn't work properly. The cabcam position is again, too low (I have just finished a fix which will again be uploaded to uktrainsim).
On the plus side, the loco looks very accurate and has some nice touches (both can ends have different signage/details)
Now all we need is some GBrF and full livery EWS paints along with some AP sounds and we are gold.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:36 pm
by 749006
firetrap1 wrote:Both are included and are of very high quality. I was having a lot of issues with getting the loco to move initially also, as the tutorials were quite useless and didn't explain how to set the loco up in full. It turns out that you need to set the OLE equipment up using the knob (which looks like a bath tap), then you need to set it/close the circuits by pressing the red button in the center.
Yeah, like it says in the manual on page 8

Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:15 pm
by firetrap1
749006 wrote:firetrap1 wrote:Both are included and are of very high quality. I was having a lot of issues with getting the loco to move initially also, as the tutorials were quite useless and didn't explain how to set the loco up in full. It turns out that you need to set the OLE equipment up using the knob (which looks like a bath tap), then you need to set it/close the circuits by pressing the red button in the center.
Yeah, like it says in the manual on page 8

I think you missed my point. My point was that the tutorials weren't very helpful. Tutorials are supposed to help you put what's in the manual into practice.

Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:45 pm
by firetrap1
firetrap1 wrote:Both are included and are of very high quality. I was having a lot of issues with getting the loco to move initially also, as the tutorials were quite useless and didn't explain how to set the loco up in full. It turns out that you need to set the OLE equipment up using the knob (which looks like a bath tap), then you need to set it/close the circuits by pressing the red button in the center.
As I said before the sounds aren't great, infact they are all reused from the class 91. The loco is only supplied with two loaded varients of intermodal waggons and as far as I could tell, the speed set doesn't work properly. The cabcam position is again, too low (I have just finished a fix which will again be uploaded to uktrainsim).
On the plus side, the loco looks very accurate and has some nice touches (both can ends have different signage/details)
Now all we need is some GBrF and full livery EWS paints along with some AP sounds and we are gold.
*EDIT
The speedset does seem to function at higher speeds and also brakes according to speed set using the dial, however it seems it doesn't activate for speeds lower than 25mph.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:51 pm
by Juanillo99
Mr395008 wrote:Juanillo99 wrote:Mr395008 wrote:I'm pleased to see this - *Driver Vigilance can be disabled/Enabled by pressing CTRL+D
Where is it specified?
I'm reading
the manual and I do not see anything about it.

Page 6. *Driver Vigilance can be disabled/Enabled by pressing CTRL+D
Indeed, you are right.
I did not read before (this happened to me unnoticed).
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:02 pm
by HarryHill1975
I'm going to be skint at this rate, anybody know how the sounds match up to the real thing?
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:11 pm
by dp123
HarryHill1975 wrote:I'm going to be skint at this rate, anybody know how the sounds match up to the real thing?
From the video posted earlier in the thread, and subsequent comments, they're not even close. It appears to be a mash up of the 91 and the horn from the 67. Neither of these samples sound anything like a real 92.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:12 pm
by callum1122334455
HarryHill1975 wrote:I'm going to be skint at this rate, anybody know how the sounds match up to the real thing?
Not very well at all.
Re: Class 92 on sale
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:15 pm
by HarryHill1975
callum1122334455 wrote:HarryHill1975 wrote:I'm going to be skint at this rate, anybody know how the sounds match up to the real thing?
Not very well at all.
I'll leave it then until Mr Armstrong gets some sounds sorted.