Class 92 on sale

[gptech]

Fourth Letter: Z=?, Y=? , but one or the other must be there. ( any ideas why ? )

I'm sure somebody posted that the BR logo was 'hideable', maybe even the depot plaque too so those letters may be for that.

[spellow3010]

Hmmm, I guess we now know why DTG used Class 91 sounds (with Class 67 horn) on the 92 then...

I took a punt on this over the weekend and added it to my collection. My experience with it mirrors my thoughts on the Class 91 in several ways. The model looks great externally and captures the overall look of the loco quite nicely - as another commentator has alluded, there is hopefully scope to tone down the 'shiny shiny' look that the locos present themselves with 'out of the box.' I think DTG pitched the livery release correct with this model.

Inside the cab, it's nice to have that 'all around' look with a lot of buttons and controls selectable by the driver. Even a working 'passenger/freight' timing setting. I believe that in real life, that actually controls the way that the brakes are applied, brake pressure released/applied more quickly in passenger mode? Having completed work with Freightliner Intermodal recently, I was made aware that their Class 4 Intermodal traffic trains hauled by Class 66s work in passenger mode for that reason.

Scenarios are quite limited again and is disappointing for a 'flagship' model release.

Sounds - well it is difficult to be critical if even the mighty AP are having trouble getting access to a loco to play with. I guess DTG had the same issue and it's only fair to cut them the same understanding slack in this case. We should be thankful that we got the sounds we did for the Class 91 then at least?

A plee though - in my experience, the Class 92 horn is nowhere near a Class 67 horn. The 92s were built by Brush Traction in Loughborough, the same stable/era as the venerable Class 60 that came before. I seem to recall Class 92 and Class 60 horns sounding similar (I won't commit to saying that they are identical)... So, is it possible to release a patch that aliases the Class 60 horn to the Class 92? Is that a community patch jobbie for those of us that own a JT Class 60 for example with AP Class 60 sound pack pro etc? Might not be fully similar, but I would find it more believable to have a Class 60 horn than the Class 67 - so don't shoot the messenger...

Driving - i ran the Electric Troubles scenario in full without any issues and enjoyed the drive. The loco seemed to be nicely responsive, though for a loco with 6,700hp, I was expecting to lift the Intermodal train a bit quicker in terms of acceleration - but I would need to default to Yyyyamst's experiences of the real thing to compare...

Summary - a good addition to the collection. I do not feel able to criticse DTG for the sounds in this case as mentioned above, so will give this an 8/10. To score ten, it needed more scenarios and a less than glossy/ex works look to the loco. Other than that, for the full price paid, another bit of value for money imo.

Let the re-skins and scenarios unfold... and prey to him above that AP can finally get access to do a recording. A beast of this kind, really does need the correct sounds... More so IMO than any DMU or EMU... Locos for the win

Gosh - I forgot... you also get some nice intermodal wagons in this pack... Even more value for money... Glad I bought...

[spellow3010]

Having seen the Romanian re-skin - and very nice it is too - anyone with some talent out there want to try a fictional Stobart red/white/green livery? I seem to recall some literature from a few years ago showing an intended repaint of a Class 37 in Eddie Stobart colours...

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I have since tracked back through my records and found that I have also had a Class 92 on a railtour between Crewe and Carlisle in February 2003 (Pathfinder Tours 'Tyne Valentine'). That was again Mark 1 stock, but I can't remember a barrier loco being between the 92 and the stock itself. Maybe the leading coach could have been a Mark 2... Need to dig out my photos.

[yyyyamst]

I like the idea of swooping the present Class 92 Warning Horn for the Class 60, a good compromise!

The Speed Set bug is being looked into which comes on very good authority. I have been asked not to post comments so please do not ask. Wait and see!

I am going to put together a small number of guides based on Class 92 operations. The first will be the Full preparation for service. This is normally done prior to leaving Crewe ETD or following maintenance and is valid for 7 days in traffic. Normally takes 55 mins to complete but as the sim model does not have all systems modelled it will take about 10 mins.

[Springer6]

Fourth Letter: Z=?, Y=? , but one or the other must be there. ( any ideas why ? )

I'm sure somebody posted that the BR logo was 'hideable', maybe even the depot plaque too so those letters may be for that.

Yes the BR logo is "hideable , but it is controlled by the "3rd. Letter" i.e. When this is W the BR Logo shows, when this is V the BR logo does not show.

The "4th letter has to be either Z or Y, but I can't see what this controls ?

The depot plaque seems to be part of the model and does not seem to be controlled by a code. However AP in their forthcoming scenario pack for WCMLoS may have found a way to remove it if the screenshots are accurate.

[Springer6]

[quote="spellow3010"]Having seen the Romanian re-skin - and very nice it is too - anyone with some talent out there want to try a fictional Stobart red/white/green livery? I seem to recall some literature from a few years ago showing an intended repaint of a Class 37 in Eddie Stobart colours...

Was this what you were looking for ?-

http://rockrailscenarios.com/product/rr ... rt-livery/

[Springer6]

[quote="Springer6"]I don't know whether anyone has already done this, but as usual RSC have omitted the information on the name and number ( and logo ) codes from the manual.

RSC/DTG Class 92 List of standard names and numbers.


One omitted from previous list :

92046TVXZ/Sweelinck

[kirkheath]

GBRF, Eurotunnel, EWS and Stobart reskins:

http://rockrailscenarios.com/product/rr ... skin-pack/

http://rockrailscenarios.com/product/rr ... rt-livery/

Hey Callum just checking but I installed the GBRF and europorte skins ok but the europorte one still has the EWS Decal, is this correct and authentic?

[windberg]

I can not drive the expert control training scenario with the keyboard. The 92 makes no inch forward or backward. Do other also have this problem?

[callum1122334455]

Sorry, I couldn't say. They are not my reskins and I haven't installed any of them yet.

[kirkheath]

I can not drive the expert control training scenario with the keyboard. The 92 makes no inch forward or backward. Do other also have this problem?

Hello Windberg,

What you need to do is the following,

move reverser in F (Hold W key), press Q to cancel the AWS.

then hold and rotate this plunger to the notch 1 position - As pictured, then click the red button in the middle of the Power source changer.

Then hold the brakes release key until the guages show at 0.

[yyyyamst]

I can not drive the expert control training scenario with the keyboard. The 92 makes no inch forward or backward. Do other also have this problem?

Hello Windberg,

What you need to do is the following,

move reverser in F (Hold W key), press Q to cancel the AWS.

then hold and rotate this plunger to the notch 1 position - As pictured, then click the red button in the middle of the Power source changer.

Then hold the brakes release key until the guages show at 0.

The correct method is as follows.
Desk unlocked and Direction Selector to Neutral postion (between forward and reverse.
Mode selector to the system you are on (BR AC / BR DC)
Enable Switch move from 0 to 1. Check Pan raised or Shoes lowered.
Press the VCB/HSCB reset Button which is located on the mode selector( red button).

To move the Loco.
Loco direct brake fully apply.
Set the speed set to 5mph and go into forward direction.
Fully release the Train Brake, keep Direct applied.
Power Controller move to the on position and check the LED power indicator lights up.
Release the Direct Loco Brake.
Push the Power Controller fully forward to maximum power.
When speed reaches 5mph, dial speed set up to 10 pause, then 15 and so on. This method prevents the Loco from initiating too much tractive effort and causing a Train division.

The other method is to set speed st to your maximum train speed and then move the Power Controller to on. Very gently apply very small increase in Power controller setting to full power. Watch out for Wheelslip.

[windberg]

Thank you for the explanations. This small red button was the key to my Class 92 heaven.

And thank you for the prototypical driving instructions. I am interested in how the real loco works and if I can do this with the virtual one too.

[749006]

I'm sure somebody posted that the BR logo was 'hideable', maybe even the depot plaque too so those letters may be for that.

Interesting as a number of locos have lost the BR Double Arrows the 92 in Romania kept them
http://media.trainspo.com/uploads/photo ... 402811.jpg

[gptech]

The "4th letter has to be either Z or Y, but I can't see what this controls ?

Z is a blank texture, Y is logo_2 according to the digits.bin file.
logo_2 itself shows in RSBin Tool as SNCF, but has a totally black alpha channel making it invisible too!----a clue as to a possible future variant?

EDIT: 'Un-hiding' logo_2 by deleting the alpha channel completely as a quick test gives....