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Some signals of some sections have NOT GONE MISSING! Food in mouth 8)

After reading the route manual. It is carefully explained and Ctrl-D, if you do not like alerts and sudden brake applikations.

Aha, the old it's the manual trick. I will attempt to map the few remaining too close for reading speed signs, while waiting for EMU rolling stock. or The Class 375 ain't that bad for the line.
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For those having the issue with the CSX SD40 brake multiplier not working, here is a fix.

https://mega.co.nz/#!f0YiCAjR!Mjtf7w-Gp ... fN5CLVssxs

Put this file in both:
\Assets\RSC\NewYorkNewHaven\InputMappers
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\Assets\RSC\NewYorkNewHaven\RailVehicles\Diesel\SD40-2\Default\InputMapper
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[quote][Also does anyone know whether these AMfleet coach trains hauled by either ACS-64, HHP-8 or AEM-7 are ever operated push/pull and if so is there a cab car similar to the metroliner ones ?/quote]


The only push pull trains with cab control are the New York-Harrisburg Keystones.
All of the intercity trains on this part of the NEC are locomotive hauled with trailing coaches.
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adam3544 wrote:I wonder how real is this route. Is it possible that such an important main route (NEC) is limited to 70 mph and crippled with constant speed limits of 45mph.
How come there are no track side signs of speed change. Although graphics are excellent, there is something "fishy" in the feeling I got when driving.
Maybe I'm used to German excellent routes like Hamburg-Hannover.
Finally,why such a ultra modern locomotive as Amtrak Siemens ACS-64 doesn't have any means of automatic speed control.

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It's pretty real in terms of speed. The numerous long neglected small bridges on the route are way outside of their operational lifespan. And as the derailment from last summer showed, the normal track isn't in much better shape either. Oh and the catenary is also so old it's prone to failure.
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carlsonindustries wrote:
adam3544 wrote:I wonder how real is this route. Is it possible that such an important main route (NEC) is limited to 70 mph and crippled with constant speed limits of 45mph.
How come there are no track side signs of speed change. Although graphics are excellent, there is something "fishy" in the feeling I got when driving.
Maybe I'm used to German excellent routes like Hamburg-Hannover.
Finally,why such a ultra modern locomotive as Amtrak Siemens ACS-64 doesn't have any means of automatic speed control.

Adam
It's pretty real in terms of speed. The numerous long neglected small bridges on the route are way outside of their operational lifespan. And as the derailment from last summer showed, the normal track isn't in much better shape either. Oh and the catenary is also so old it's prone to failure.
I didn't know about those facts. Thank you very much for this information.

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carlsonindustries wrote:
adam3544 wrote:I wonder how real is this route. Is it possible that such an important main route (NEC) is limited to 70 mph and crippled with constant speed limits of 45mph.
How come there are no track side signs of speed change. Although graphics are excellent, there is something "fishy" in the feeling I got when driving.
Maybe I'm used to German excellent routes like Hamburg-Hannover.
Finally,why such a ultra modern locomotive as Amtrak Siemens ACS-64 doesn't have any means of automatic speed control.

Adam
It's pretty real in terms of speed. The numerous long neglected small bridges on the route are way outside of their operational lifespan. And as the derailment from last summer showed, the normal track isn't in much better shape either. Oh and the catenary is also so old it's prone to failure.

Not being deprecatory of American Railroads, but I can say when building it that I was absolutely horrified at the state of the Bridges (the real life ones!) on the route. Ive seen better bridges on UK heritage lines, and in some cases they were abandoned for 30 odd years before getting a coat of paint.

Id advise people to take a look on GE at some of the rail over road crossings along the route, it really is a bit frightening. On the positive side a lot of them seem to be in the process of being replaced, but it looks to be some time yet.
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adam3544 wrote:I wonder how real is this route. Is it possible that such an important main route (NEC) is limited to 70 mph and crippled with constant speed limits of 45mph.
How come there are no track side signs of speed change. Maybe I'm used to German excellent routes like Hamburg-Hannover.
Some of the European routes don't have lineside speed boards if all the trains have Cab Signalling, like LZB or TVM430.
adam3544 wrote:Finally,why such a ultra modern locomotive as Amtrak Siemens ACS-64 doesn't have any means of automatic speed control.
Maybe Amtrak did not specify "Cruise Control" to use a US phrase.
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carlsonindustries wrote:It's pretty real in terms of speed. The numerous long neglected small bridges on the route are way outside of their operational lifespan. And as the derailment from last summer showed, the normal track isn't in much better shape either. Oh and the catenary is also so old it's prone to failure.
It that case, then, it is a very realitisk model of the route, which also teaches its bit of patience to drivers and scenarios authors.It is great fun, but also quite difficult, with all the bells and whistles. One can however, as a scenario writer, set track and, if memory content correct, track state as one wants - without changing the route.
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stuart666 wrote:
carlsonindustries wrote: It's pretty real in terms of speed. The numerous long neglected small bridges on the route are way outside of their operational lifespan. And as the derailment from last summer showed, the normal track isn't in much better shape either. Oh and the catenary is also so old it's prone to failure.
Not being deprecatory of American Railroads, but I can say when building it that I was absolutely horrified at the state of the Bridges (the real life ones!) on the route. Ive seen better bridges on UK heritage lines, and in some cases they were abandoned for 30 odd years before getting a coat of paint.

Id advise people to take a look on GE at some of the rail over road crossings along the route, it really is a bit frightening. On the positive side a lot of them seem to be in the process of being replaced, but it looks to be some time yet.
Definitely. If this route were over here you could happily add 30mph to the overall speed limits, as a rule.

But still, if you really want to you can merrily travel at way above 90% of the majority of the posted speed limits already and it will be perfectly comfortable. :)

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hertsbob wrote:Definitely. If this route were over here you could happily add 30mph to the overall speed limits, as a rule.

But still, if you really want to you can merrily travel at way above 90% of the majority of the posted speed limits already and it will be perfectly comfortable. :)

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A lot of the speed limits will be down to condition of track, signal spacing and other influences such as bridge condition or bridge type; you're not going to be doing 125mph over a swing bridge are you.
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stuart666 wrote:Id advise people to take a look on GE at some of the rail over road crossings along the route, it really is a bit frightening. On the positive side a lot of them seem to be in the process of being replaced, but it looks to be some time yet.
The only thing wrong with a level crossing is the idiots - road drivers and pedestrians - that use them.
If they Stop on a Red light no problem.
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749006 wrote: .....The only thing wrong with a level crossing is the idiots - road drivers and pedestrians - that use them ......
Not always: http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/inv ... 042011.cfm. Immediate cause was an error by the signaller who raised the barriers with a train approaching. That he was able to do so was due to there being no approach locking fitted at this location.

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