Just Trains Newcastle to Edinburgh - Now Available

[Rockdoc2174]

I hope is wasn't mine Keith. If it was let me know. As you know, it's easy for one pair of eyes to pass something off as finished when it's not.

It wasn't one of yours - it was an RSC one - but I decided not to identify the route or author as I was only using it as an example of how things that could have been done much better can go unremarked, nothing more. The fact that so little criticism has been made of this particular route shows that the vast majority of people don't look as closely as I'm now doing. It's very easy to become over-cautious with this kind of thing and drive yourself mad trying to make the last little bit as good as it could possible be. I know that Breadsall is incomplete and know where to look for the gaps but I hadn't run over that stretch for a good few weeks until I decided to test my work for frame-rates on my weakest computer - if it runs well on that then it will run well on anything! I saw things I still need to do near to the line but was surprised that my more distant efforts looked pretty good as they are. Clearly my not running over it had altered my focus.

I'm not trying to cast aspersions in any direction. Flaws will always exist if one knows where to look but my having sympathy for the creators, stemming from my own fumbling efforts, doesn't mean I think that the Newcastle to Edinburgh route haven't messed things up and I have no doubt that JT's reputation has been damaged by it. They have messed up and it should be an example to us all to get people who've not been involved to help with the final testing. As you wrote, we all sometimes see what we want to see, not what's there, and a fresh perspective is a valuable tool.

Keith

[pjt1974]

It wasn't one of yours

Keith

Phew, although I drove one of mine the other day for the first time in a couple of months and spotted a few things that need tweaking
Like I said in an earlier post, being a route builder, I'm pretty good at spotting building errors on routes. Many a time I've downloaded a Workshop route and ran it for the first time and spotted errors from the cab. Not because I was intentionally looking for them, it's just something I subconsciously do because of run after run checking my own routes. If I'd been given the original Newcastle to Edinburgh route to test before release, I probably would've given it a clean bill of health.

Overall, JustTrains are one of the best in terms of after sales customer support. In my experience, if they miss something or mess up, they are pretty darn quick at putting it right as they seem to have been in the latest update for the Newcastle to Edinburgh route.

[Trev123]

That's a good point Yerkes. How did people install it. Installed over the top of the other one or uninstall the other one through programs and features then install the new version. I have learnt over the years to always uninstall the older version first of any program before I installed the newer version. Most times always ran into problems.

[johnwatto]

That's a good point Yerkes. How did people install it. Installed over the top of the other one or uninstall the other one through programs and features then install the new version. I have learnt over the years to always uninstall the older version first of any program before I installed the newer version. Most times always ran into problems.

After I received the email from JT, I down loaded the route from my account and ran the exe file, this then asked me if I wanted to remove the route from my PC, I clicked ok and the route was removed, I then ran the exe file again and this time it was a complete new install. I then ran a utility I have to check that nothing was left in the registry-all ok.

I ran the route and scenarios through RW_Tools and no assets missing. The route runs fine.

John W

[Trev123]

I have found doing it that way sometimes creates problems John, that's why I uninstall from Programs and Features.

[bri2808]

I have found doing it that way sometimes creates problems John, that's why I uninstall from Programs and Features.

Well thats food for thought because I also allow the JT app to uninstall then re-install. Will try your method next time Trev see if there appears to be any difference

[yerkes]

I have found doing it that way sometimes creates problems John, that's why I uninstall from Programs and Features.

Well thats food for thought because I also allow the JT app to uninstall then re-install. Will try your method next time Trev see if there appears to be any difference

The file includes an uninstaller as well as a new installer. Version 105 worked fine, uninstalling the prior version and installing the new. I appreciated the very swift follow-up by Martin at JT.

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[J1o2h3n4]

Well,
just to be on the safe side, used ConPnl/prog & Feature to remove existing N2E Then right click, run as Admin to install the new v5.

Then I started to get popups as per attachments, shown the first one and the last of approx 5 popups. Each one cleared on pressing the "Retry" button.
But not feeling too happy re-installed again just using the run, first to remove then to install V5 - no popups no problems installing.
Ah the vagaries of windows.

Regards JohnT

[markpullinger]

Thanks guys, been away for the weekend, didn't realise there was a v105, will see if that works ok later.

[alexisn]

Any news on what's changed from v1.04 to v1.05? The above errors are worrying me but if the green land out at sea has been fixed then I reckon it's worth a gamble!

[Trev123]

I think the green land out at sea is a DTG problem. You get this peculiarity on some DTG route as will.

[gptech]

JohnT........did you run as Admin when installing the earlier version?

[michaelth]

In the new version v105, the missing track problem seems to be cured. Thank you, JustTrains.

Since I feel that the HST which comes with the route is to loud in the cab, I have added the cab occlusion of the Kuju HST to its bin-file.

Michael

[Trev123]

You could get the Armstrong Powerhouse HST sounds.

[gptech]

Do the AP sound pack(s) install to the JT versions though?